Bad drivers, nice cyclists

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Night Train

Maker of Things
Has the standard of driving dropped even further these last couple of weeks?

Out in the car recently I have seen:
Horrendously aggressive tailgating by drivers that don't even want to over take when they can. When I can't even see the front edge of their bonnet in my mirror at 70mph then it is really too close.
Drivers who indicate and change lanes without caring that there is a car next to them.
Over taking on 40mph single carriageway at close to 70mph passing on the wrong side of traffic islands and with solid white lines in the centre of the road.
Two cars racing at 100+mph in traffic on single carriageway roads.
Under taking slow traffic by using the pavement.
Using all three lanes on a roundabout for going straight on even when there is other traffic using the other lanes.

Blatent illegal right turns where the drivers forced their way though.
Not stopping at the white line at traffic lights but stopping with their bonnets as far into the junction as they can.
U turns into oncoming traffic without indicators or waiting for a gap.


I know this happens anyway but most of this, the first lot, I saw on one drive from Manchester to Burnley around 10am Friday morning. I almost decided to give up going to work for my own safety.



On the plus side I was driving up a narrow road today and saw some road work cones on my side of the road and a couple of youths on bikes cycling towards me in that aimless drifting about style they sometimes have. I could have got around the cones if I was quick but stopped to wait for them to pass. They waved and mouthed a thank you. So they are not all bad.
 

Bigtwin

New Member
Nope - it's been getting more a more appalling for years - it's what happens when a nation decides to police its roads almost exclusively by speed camera.
 
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Night Train

Night Train

Maker of Things
Bigtwin said:
Nope - it's been getting more a more appalling for years - it's what happens when a nation decides to police its roads almost exclusively by speed cameras.
The over take on the wrong side of the traffic islands was on a road with speed cameras, on the A682 from Rawtenstall to Burnley. The car stayed behind me through the first camera and then shot past almost clipping the kerb on the other side and then slowed again for the next camera near Clowbridge Reservior.:smile:

They then did it again to another car on the 50mph section just after where there are double solid white lines.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I bet the car was a chavved up Corsa.

You know that in Lancashire you can report bad driving? The report gets logged on the PNC against that car and if the car receives more than three reports the Police will go and have a word with the driver, they will also stop the car if it is seen by an ANPR equipped car. The number is 0845 1 25 35 45.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Rigid Raider said:
I bet the car was a chavved up Corsa.

You know that in Lancashire you can report bad driving? The report gets logged on the PNC against that car and if the car receives more than three reports the Police will go and have a word with the driver, they will also stop the car if it is seen by an ANPR equipped car. The number is 0845 1 25 35 45.

Do you know if there is a similar system in Bristol - though I could probably ring on a daily basis recently.... is it specific to the Lancashire force area?
 

upsidedown

Waiting for the great leap forward
Location
The middle bit
Bigtwin said:
Nope - it's been getting more a more appalling for years - it's what happens when a nation decides to police its roads almost exclusively by speed cameras.


Exactly right, drivers know there is about 1 in a million chance of being caught by a live, actual, not going home, not getting breakfast, giving a shoot policeman.
 
Sadly, I do think that the standard of driving is getting worse. I have had two close shaves this week, and they do seem to be happening on a more regular basis. Today in heavy rain I was on a straight stretch going into a 30 limit on the edge of a village. I was doing under 30 as there is a 90 degree right hand bend just inside the limit. Around the bend came a Ford Focus at a crazy speed slightly on my side of the road. The driver steered quite violently to get it back onto his side and avoid me. How he missed me I do not know, and just before I entered the bend I looked in my mirror expecting to see him lose control and crash. By sheer luck his car stayed out of the hedges, but what would have been the result if the three cyclists I'd seen earlier had been nearby?
 

Joe24

More serious cyclist than Bonj
Location
Nottingham
Ive seen alot of bad driving.
One of them was on the way home from training and a learner driver decided to come past me, on the wrong side of the road on a right hand bend, and he couldnt see around the bend. I saw a car coming the other way and was trying to signal him back in, but it wasnt until his instructor grabbed the wheel that he moved over!
Then ofcourse, whos fault is it? Mine:wacko: Which pissed me off alot, and caused a reaction that wasnt too good, and hurt slightly:wacko:
On the same courner, but going the other way, my mum had some chav in a car power past her. Completely not safe, only a 30, blind bend, lots of parked cars and theres often kids about there.
He got past her then had to slow down for the car infront, that he couldnt over take:wacko:
Bad teaching for part, and people thinking they are much safer then what they are in their cars
 
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Night Train

Night Train

Maker of Things
Rigid Raider said:
I bet the car was a chavved up Corsa.

You know that in Lancashire you can report bad driving? The report gets logged on the PNC against that car and if the car receives more than three reports the Police will go and have a word with the driver, they will also stop the car if it is seen by an ANPR equipped car. The number is 0845 1 25 35 45.
Close, it was a little white Citroen hatch, too fast to get the number. The tail gaters were too close to even see the bonnet edge never mind the number plate!;) One was a white Vauxhall van, Corsa sized, and the other was a black VW Golf. The racers were a Silver Vectra and blue Citroen C5(?).

That number is worth knowing. I have reported really bad driving before.
A few years ago on the M60 in traffic I could see in my mirror a Toyota 4x4 barging its way through the traffic. As the traffic cleared a little I was in a clear lane three (of three) with heavy traffic in lanes one and two when the Toyota caught up with me. The driver kept charging at me and slamming on the brakes to urge me faster. I couldn't pull over to let it pass as lane two was doing about 50mph and I was getting to 80 and speeding up to avoid being hit from behind. I could see the end of the queue in lane two and eventually managed to change lanes at 95mph to let the Toyota pass. I got the reg as it went past and so I stopped on the hard shoulder and phoned the Police describing everything that happened and giving a description of the driver and passenger and the gesticulations they were making at me and even the pizza box on the dash board to show how close they got to me.

After setting off again I saw blue lights ahead. Four Police 4x4s had cornered the Toyota in Lane four by Junction 17. Now that, I thought, was efficient.
 

Renard

Guest
Is it because there are a bigger percentage of bad drivers out there or is the percentage roughly static and there are just more cars on the road?
 

Bigtwin

New Member
Renard said:
Is it because there are a bigger percentage of bad drivers out there or is the percentage roughly static and there are just more cars on the road?

The former. Driving is largely about politeness and thought and consideration for other road users and society in general in the context that we are talking about. In line with the rest of society, the proportion of selfish me-o-centric rude knobs around has increased markedly.
 
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Night Train

Night Train

Maker of Things
Friday was very definately a day of deliberately and offensively rude and selfish driving rather then the usual poor standard of forgetting to look or indicate occasionally.
 
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