Bagram airfield crash

[mark st1]

I get the impression someone is an airplane boffin Horrid video ive often wondered what it would be like passing under them on the M25 if something like that happened ! shocking.

 

[green1]

Not sure about this but do not tanks in aircraft wings have baffles to prevent unwanted and unexpected movement of fuel ?

They do, but they reduce it not eliminate it.

 

[green1]

I get the impression someone is an airplane boffin

I studied Aero Mech.

 

[Cycling Dan]

They do, but they reduce it not eliminate it.

Indeed but this wouldn't be a problem as it would be accounted for. Unlike a 2-3 ton shift to the back of the aircraft for example

 

[DaveReading]

Although in this case it was a deep stall so airflow over the elevators as the wings would block the airflow.

No, it was a conventional stall. Deep stalls are a characteristic of T-tailed aircraft.

 

[Arch]

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It happened in Southampton a while ago, a plane didn't quite make the runway and landed on the M27[/quote]

Not to mention the M1/East Midlands airport in 19.. whenever. Same year as Lockerbie I think, that was a bad year for flying. One of those where you heard the news and thought "Oh, not again..."

We passed the spot on a coach a couple of weeks later, and there was just a terribly bare spot in the trees on the embankment.

 

[Cycling Dan]

No, it was a conventional stall. Deep stalls are a characteristic of T-tailed aircraft.

Oh dear. Indeed I know it was for T tail aircraft - I seemed to have forgotten the placement of the elevators on a 747 ha.

 

[Bman]

Tragic. RIP to the crew.

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/aviat...-400f-crashes-in-afghanistan-seven-crew-lost/

 

[TVC]

Not to mention the M1/East Midlands airport in 19.. whenever. Same year as Lockerbie I think, that was a bad year for flying. One of those where you heard the news and thought "Oh, not again..."

We passed the spot on a coach a couple of weeks later, and there was just a terribly bare spot in the trees on the embankment.

It flew over central Leicester (I was living near the LRI then). We were used to aircraft coming in to East Midlands 20 miles away and ignore them, but I remember it made a terrible noise and we went outside to see what was happening, the sound of an engine on full power but also buzzing. Anyway, 10 minutes later everything with lights and sirens on was heading away from town and there was a constant stream of sirens and a few helicopters all night.

 

[ianrauk]

Airplane crashes are such awful things.
A private jet plane came down half a mile from where I live. BBC News.
I was in the garden and could hear the screaming engines then the loud 'plop' as it crashed. The smell of aviation fuel lasted for days.

 

[pplpilot]

I stalled a 747-400 at the BA sim training centre Heathrow a few years ago just for fun, it takes in the region of 5k ft to recover an aircraft as big as a 747 from a deep stall. As a rule in a military zone they would depart on a higher angle of atack than normal to get the fark out of there, this really wouldn't have helped IF a load did shift, which seems the most plausible explanation. There is no way they could have saved this from this altitude.

 

[green1]

I stalled a 747-400 at the BA sim training centre Heathrow a few years ago just for fun, it takes in the region of 5k ft to recover an aircraft as big as a 747 from a deep stall. As a rule in a military zone they would depart on a higher angle of atack than normal to get the f*** out of there, this really wouldn't have helped IF a load did shift, which seems the most plausible explanation. There is no way they could have saved this from this altitude.

Indeed you wouldn't do a conventional departure from Bagram. You'd climb hard and fast to be as high as possible by the time you reach the perimeter fence to reduce the MANPADS threat.