BBC and Glastonbury

[Time Waster]

The other argument about music of the past is that younger audiences don't listen the same way us old fogeys did. None of this glued to the hifi on a Sunday night with the tape deck ready to less record when the next song on BBC 1 top 40 starts then jumping to the deck to stop record when it ends.

Now people stream music. That really ends up with younger people likely to be into some quite interesting, if older music than you might think. You see it when a song from the 90s or 80s or 70s gets into the charts on streaming alone.

Also, I believe there's a lot of older bands heavily supported at Glasto. I mean want Pulp there? A lot of young'uns enjoying that too.

I think music is no longer controlled by big record labels and big music outlets on TV or radio networks. It's about what people are finding for themselves. There's something positive about things now I think. But it's not all rosy.

One thing I do think sometimes, there's some modern singers without the power in their voice off those from a long time ago. I've seen some who are too busy performing to the song than singing the song. Wiggling your bits on step with the backing dancers instead of singing your song is not great IMHO. People listen to the music online but live it can be more about the dancing at times. Do people really want a breathless, dancing, young woman wearing very little trying to dance and sing at the same time or do they want to hear the song with the backing dancers doing the dancers? What would you prefer?

 

[Beebo]

One thing I do think sometimes, there's some modern singers without the power in their voice off those from a long time ago. I've seen some who are too busy performing to the song than singing the song. Wiggling your bits on step with the backing dancers instead of singing your song is not great IMHO. People listen to the music online but live it can be more about the dancing at times. Do people really want a breathless, dancing, young woman wearing very little trying to dance and sing at the same time or do they want to hear the song with the backing dancers doing the dancers? What would you prefer?

I think modern audiences expect a live experience to be flawless and close to the album version.
Taylor Swift was rumoured to have been using backing tracks for her recent Eras tour to keep the vocals spot on.
They don’t want to see the band twiddling around and 10 minute impromptu guitar solos.
I watched most of Charlie XCX. It appeared to be just her vocal and a prerecorded backing track.

 

[matticus]

Bring back the days of Supergrass, Ash, Shed Seven etc

Shed Seven played this year

... and Supergrass :P

(I think they played the whole of their first album.)

 

[KingstonGraham]

... and Supergrass :P

(I think they played the whole of their first album.)

So did Ash....

Supergrass didn't play the whole album, they did the first 7 songs then skipped a few "lesser" songs and did some hits. Much better for the festival.

I really don't like full album run throughs generally, it's why I haven't been to see Supergrass on this tour.

 

[KingstonGraham]

I started thinking about how amazing my local record shop is. Of acts that played Glastonbury this year, I've seen - in Kingston in the last few years: Ash, Wet Leg, The 1975, Inhaler, Shed Seven, Kaiser Chiefs, The Libertines, Beabadoobee, Franz Ferdinand, Lucy Dacus and Self Esteem. And tickets to Wet Leg and CMAT later this year.

And no flags.

 

[KingstonGraham]

I'd forgotten just how full on were/are The Prodigy. Just watched their set, v good. Sez this 'old' geezer here 😊 The Prodigy formed in 1990...

This is superb...
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/dMnU_h25g5U?si=6GtAQ73wwe9L2Z-r

 

[matticus]

I started thinking about how amazing my local record shop is. Of acts that played Glastonbury this year, I've seen - in Kingston in the last few years: Ash, Wet Leg, The 1975, Inhaler, Shed Seven, Kaiser Chiefs, The Libertines, Beabadoobee, Franz Ferdinand, Lucy Dacus and Self Esteem.

I asumed "Kingston" was your first name. (and you might be related to Stephen Graham). Disappointing ...

 

[KingstonGraham]

I asumed "Kingston" was your first name. (and you might be related to Stephen Graham). Disappointing ...

Maybe it is and it's just a coincidence that I now live in Kingston, la.

 

[Dan Lotus]

Couldn't agree more. So many of our friends are rooted in the past and dismiss all the fantastic new music that is being produced right now.

We love Raye and Gracie Abrams is top drawer.

It's really very sad, but at the end of the day they are the people missing out.
I'm hoping by setting this example, our daughter will also always grow up embracing new music and continue to do so - thinking about it, my parents, or probably more so my mum, always had Radio 1 on in the house, and we'd always watch the new music programs of which there uses to be a fair selection, so that is probably where I get it from.

I'd see Raye and Abrams live in a heartbeat - I know my daughter & partner would want to see them too, they both had real stage presence, and gave great performances I think, although I appreciate the musical styles are very different.

In addition to my last list, I would also like to add as further personal highlights:

• Beabadoobie Beabadoobee (Had to check the spelling)
• Myles Smith
• En Vogue (Clearly not at their very best anymore, but still an impressive vocal performance I thought)
• Loyle Carner
• Shaboozey
• Alanis Morrisette

I saw a bit of CMAT, but don't get the hype - my perception which I will be happy to revise, is that now and then the music industry and it's supporting cast, have some kind of co-ordinated effort to provide a given artist nothing but good press and accolades.
Perhaps it is not co-ordinated, maybe multiple parties just jump on the bandwagon.
I didn't dislike her, but I didn't find anything stand out amazing about the performance - yet.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Luckily, I have never really bothered with music due to my hearing

Obviously didn't stop a lot of the Glastonbury clientele. (Old curmudgeon statement).
Anyhow, far too much karaoke for my liking.

 

[MontyVeda]

Last night i watched Lorde... but turned her off in the second song because she was clearly miming. People moan about flags but artists not playing live annoys the hell out of me far far more. A festival is not Top of the Pops!
That was followed by Faye Webster; not heard of her but gave her a chance. Bit dull.
Then Wet Leg... they were good.

 

[BrumJim]

Performance highlights (in no specific order) for me so far were:

• Biffy Clyro (Watched the set twice)
• Raye (Phenomenal)
• Jorja Smith
• Joy Crookes
• Snow Patrol
• Gracie Abrams
• AJ Tracey

Tried 5 minutes of the script, and got bored after 3 - real middle of the road mediocrity for me - same for the 1975.

Watched a bit of the Rodrigo, and thought she seemed to be a pretty good performer, and I know my daughter will want to see the set, but I thought her voice seemed pretty crisp and clear.

What makes me laugh/despair is the amount of social media posts from people probably around my age, who proclaim that music is dead bla bla bla, seemingly not realising this is probably exactly what previous generations have said in the past.

For me, it's the people who give up on new music, and move over to Radio 2 or whatever, that then cease to listen to and discover NEW music and artists, and then you basically stagnate, and you're stuck in the past.
There's a LOT of great music out there, if you stop listening to new music, you're effectively regressing.

I had to take my daughter to the doctors this morning, and we had to wait 30 minutes in the aptly titled waiting room.
They had a radio station on, maybe it was Hits Radio, or the Hits, I forget which, but it had a smashie/nicey style DJ on, and we were 'treated' to bananarama, wet wet wet, Alexander O'Neal, and whitesnake - all from the 80s of course.
The 80s was great, don't get me wrong, but it's 40 years ago now, I don't understand the obsession with seemingly living in the past.
Having said all of that, most of my peers seem to have drifted effortlessly into that path 😕

I'm glad I'm not the only one. There is nothing more disheartening than to hear my peers big up Radio 2. When I was young, I was the boring non-rebellious one. Now I'm older, I'm wondering why I still want to change the world, whereas all my contempories want to go back to the good old times that they hated when they lived through them.

 

[BrumJim]

The other argument about music of the past is that younger audiences don't listen the same way us old fogeys did. None of this glued to the hifi on a Sunday night with the tape deck ready to less record when the next song on BBC 1 top 40 starts then jumping to the deck to stop record when it ends.

Now people stream music. That really ends up with younger people likely to be into some quite interesting, if older music than you might think. You see it when a song from the 90s or 80s or 70s gets into the charts on streaming alone.

Also, I believe there's a lot of older bands heavily supported at Glasto. I mean want Pulp there? A lot of young'uns enjoying that too.

I think music is no longer controlled by big record labels and big music outlets on TV or radio networks. It's about what people are finding for themselves. There's something positive about things now I think. But it's not all rosy.

I fear it is the opposite, as in order to get yourself heard you need someone inside the industry to produce your music, which will strip away all the innovative and individual creativity you have put into it, to be replaced by bland corporate garbage that no one wants, but without the input of the gatekeeper, you won't get the profile you need.

 

[craigwend]

 

[gbb]

Must admit, I'm sick to death of the endless coverage on TV and social media.