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stowie

stowie

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This programme was pretty lightweight. I did get a bit angry for the child who got run over by a cycle - who would leave a small child bleeding in the road? That is nothing to do with cycling, but basic human instinct. However, the programme really didn't address any side other than the 20% (according to the survey) of cyclists who don't obey the highway code. I like to look at it that this means 80% did obey lights and the highway code, even though these rules are significantly in favour of motorised transport. And that there is no exam or test to be taken for cyclists, yet the overwhelming majority of obey the law. Something to celebrate, surely?
 
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hackbike 666

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thomas said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r0tbd

Video is up. Just watched it. I didn't think it was too bad to be honest. It did start by saying that a minority are making it worst for most...

The critical mass bit was a little pathetic...oh no, some cyclists boxed in a taxi...pfft. Man up a bit. Hardly hard hitting stuff.

Shame about the women whos kid got hit, but the police would probably care just as much if a cyclist had been hit by a car.
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I thought it was a very fair report so I have no complaints.

Never thought I would say that...I was expecting it to be bias but it just stated the facts.

Critical mass.I think I will give it a miss esp when that guy said cyclists jump red lights for survival.Yeah right that's why they jump all the red lights.How pathetic.

The long and short of it is people can't be bothered to stop and just want to save a few seconds/minutes....just like a speeding moton.
 
GrumpyGregry

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just watched it on iPlayer. Pretty fair, presenter was at pains to say 'some cyclists' when he was talking, RLJ-ers and pavement cyclists are a problem for peds in town, the CM man's self preservation angle was self justifying bs imo.

LCC guy talked sense, we want more people on bikes, people won't be converted to the cause by the rebel/cowboy/cafeteria approach to the highway code. As for targetting cyclists, why not? Bit like speed cameras, don't want to get busted don't break the law. Don't like the law then campaign to get it changed. Plod target car drivers often enough without us being aware necessarily.
 
thomas

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hackbike 666 said:
I thought it was a very fair report so I have no complaints.

Never thought I would say that...I was expecting it to be bias but it just stated the facts.

Critical mass.I think I will give it a miss esp when that guy said cyclists jump red lights for survival.Yeah right that's why they jump all the red lights.How pathetic.

The long and short of it is people can't be bothered to stop and just want to save a few seconds/minutes....just like a speeding moton.
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Yeah, the "jumping because it's safer" argument kind of shot the guy in the foot. The thing is, Critical Mass isn't an organisation, no one is in charge, no one sets agendas, etc...so his opinion on Critical Mass and RLJing is about as valid as mine or yours would be when representing the Mass.

The video on critical mass just made me laugh....about how they all jumped red lights (the video looked pretty tame, not like some of the previous ones with people weaving around the lights)...and some cyclists were in front and to the side of a taxi. If they'd of put some effort in they could of caught a motorist ramming a cyclist, as it seems to happen most times.

I wouldn't say it was bias, but it'd be nice to have some positive cycling news....I wouldn't complain about it, mainly because I thought it was a reasonably dull bit of journalism which hopefully wouldn't enforce anyones negative cycling opinion.
 
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GregCollins said:
just watched it on iPlayer. Pretty fair, presenter was at pains to say 'some cyclists' when he was talking, RLJ-ers and pavement cyclists are a problem for peds in town, the CM man's self preservation angle was self justifying bs imo.

LCC guy talked sense, we want more people on bikes, people won't be converted to the cause by the rebel/cowboy/cafeteria approach to the highway code. As for targetting cyclists, why not? Bit like speed cameras, don't want to get busted don't break the law. Don't like the law then campaign to get it changed. Plod target car drivers often enough without us being aware necessarily.
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I'm not sure about that. How many car drivers do you see on a phone? Sometimes it seems to me to be about 10% of the drivers. Anyone know anyone who's been pulled for it?
 
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gouldina said:
I'm not sure about that. How many car drivers do you see on a phone? Sometimes it seems to me to be about 10% of the drivers. Anyone know anyone who's been pulled for it?
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Rare,perhaps they will have a clampdown one day...Perhaps a heavy fine is reasonable?
 
thomas

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gouldina

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hackbike 666

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I thought some of the pavement cycling was shocking.
 
GrumpyGregry

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gouldina said:
I'm not sure about that. How many car drivers do you see on a phone? Sometimes it seems to me to be about 10% of the drivers. Anyone know anyone who's been pulled for it?
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yep. sussex plod had a campaign last year and on going.
 
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thomas said:
I wouldn't say it was bias, but it'd be nice to have some positive cycling news....I wouldn't complain about it, mainly because I thought it was a reasonably dull bit of journalism which hopefully wouldn't enforce anyones negative cycling opinion.
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Would be nice but giood news is rarely news in any field. How often is the news article about the good in anything?

Can you see the following happening.

'We target a group of football fans who go to every game intent on having fun suopporting their team and not causing trouble'

'We follow a group of polite teenagers completing their GCSEs and work hard at school'

'We follow a commutuing cyclist as he obeys the Highway code'


To be honest it'd be a bit dull really
 
thomas

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Lizban said:
Would be nice but giood news is rarely news in any field. How often is the news article about the good in anything?

To be honest it'd be a bit dull really
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The actual negative news was dull anyway :eek:...I think it would have been better if it'd just been a general thing fussing about all road users....basically showing that everyone is as bad as everyone else.
 
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thomas said:
The actual negative news was dull anyway :wacko:...I think it would have been better if it'd just been a general thing fussing about all road users....basically showing that everyone is as bad as everyone else.
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I think we get off quite lightly in that regards - let's think road wars polic with cameras, police drive fast to catch villians bad driving 2009 (you get the point!)
 
thomas

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Lizban said:
I think we get off quite lightly in that regards - let's think road wars polic with cameras, police drive fast to catch villians bad driving 2009 (you get the point!)
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yeah, but that's not your average motorist, where as these tv shows portray what many believe to be an "average" cyclist.
 
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