BBC Inside Out tomorrow - reminder

[Archie]

Do you mean the clip of a cyclist jumping a red light at exactly the same time as a Palletline lorry is jumping the lights, and overtaking the cyclist?

Ah yes, that would be it.

 

[lit]

For those that haven't seen it

 

[BentMikey]

and are supposed to use due care and attention and consideration just like everyome else

so them stepping off the curb without looking or from behind a bus is the same as someone pulling out onto a main road without checking to see what's coming

the only problem with peds in the road is that they don't use it safely etc etc

You sound just like a moton about cyclists, IMO.

 

[Origamist]

In my ideal world, the hierachy of provision would see pedestrians have priority in high pedestrian areas, with all other vehicles including cycles slowed down to accomodate.

Pedestrians are at the top of the hierarchy of provision - it's just hard to believe given the autocentric nature of much of our streetscapes.

The "Manual for Streets" is here: http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/sustainable/manforstreets/mfssummary.pdf

and are supposed to use due care and attention and consideration just like everyome else

so them stepping off the curb without looking or from behind a bus is the same as someone pulling out onto a main road without checking to see what's coming

the only problem with peds in the road is that they don't use it safely etc etc

Let me guess - you hit a pedestrian who stepped out from behind a bus? This happens and you need to be aware of such an eventuality - you need to slow down and give the bus as wide a berth as possible in order to mitigate the likelihood and severity of a collision. Sometimes you do not even have to overtake the bus!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I've hit pedestrians twice, first one 'nipped' across the road some little way in front of me then thought better of it turned on their heel and nipped back, collecting me on the way. Second one, much worse, she, iPod-ed and without looking imo, tried crossing the road at a jog in advance of a TLC junction. I was focussed on making the lights, and probably going too fast, collected her. I then got assaulted by a WVM but that is another story.

Only after I stopped cycle commuting in London did the penny of the strict liability really drop. Peds do stupid things, we all know/experience this, as cyclists we must be prepared for them to do this and ride accordingly. Just as cyclists do stupid things, all car drivers know this and must drive accordingly. and so forth

 

[hackbike 666]

Apart from my collison on Tower Bridge I think I have a good record in London...Long may it continue.

Yes I do blame myself more and more for the 1991 Tower Bridge collision but perhaps I was short of experience of city centre cycling so I took it more for granted.

Yes (some) peds get on my tits but you guys are right.

 

[BentMikey]

I think that even the most experienced cyclist's careful precautions can be overwhelmed by particularly suicidal pedestrians, but that sort of incident is unlikely to happen very often. Is that two pedestrian collisions in nearly 20 years Hackers? That sounds pretty 'kin awesome careful riding to me.

 

[magnatom]

I think that even the most experienced cyclist's careful precautions can be overwhelmed by particularly suicidal pedestrians, but that sort of incident is unlikely to happen very often. Is that two pedestrian collisions in nearly 20 years Hackers? That sounds pretty 'kin awesome careful riding to me.

...or he just has poor aim....