shameless plug - I've got a pair of brand new bib shorts for sale on here: -Bibshorts required for the year ahead, Castelli Entrata available at a reasonable price. Any advice re comfort and size, would be for rides up to 6 hours.
Thanks but not looking for thermal.shameless plug - I've got a pair of brand new bib shorts for sale on here: -
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/shimano-thermal-winter-bib-shorts-l-brand-new.282696/
Except they rarely if ever carry my size in store. Free delivery and free returns helpClothing is always best bought from a real shop where you can try stuff on.