Bike Cleaning for winter weather especially for salt

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summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I've just been guilt tripped into washing my bike by the LBS who mentioned to me that they hoped everyone was washing their bike with all the salt on the road.

Now I just used washing up liquid and washed the frame and wheels and spokes. Then did my normal lubricating that I do fairly frequently. It didn't look that filthy ... but maybe I don't see where the salt is doing its damage.

Is there anywhere that I should be paying particular attention to with regards salt?
 

RSV_Ecosse

Senior Member
summerdays said:
Is there anywhere that I should be paying particular attention to with regards salt?


Yeah - the washing up liquid!!!! :thumbsup:

Washing up liquid should not be used to clean your bike mate.

It contains high amounts of Sodium Chloride ( salt!! ) which the manufacturers add to increase the viscosity of the liquid.

A lot of folk use washing up liquid to clean their bike, motorbike, car whatever without realising the damage they can be doing.

Swap the washing up liquid for a half decent cleaner like Muc-Off or even a bottle of Wash n Wax car shampoo and you will help keep your bike corrosion free. ;)
 

oxford_guy

Über Member
Location
Oxford, England
Also, when rinising off, don't spray a hose at high pressure at hubs and such like, as there's a danger of the water getting forced past the seals.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Give the bike a quick wash when you get it dirty - little and often makes the job easy. Just lube chain ans squire some lube on mechs and the odd bolt etc.
 
fossyant said:
Give the bike a quick wash when you get it dirty - little and often makes the job easy. Just lube chain ans squire some lube on mechs and the odd bolt etc.

+1. Mechs get incredibly gunged up in winter, esp the rear. Spend a bit of time cleaning them before they get too bad.
 

Chrisz

Über Member
Location
Sittingbourne
Ditto on the washing up liquid! A definate no-no. I use turtle wax car shampoo and rain water (we live in a hard water area) followed by a good rinse (with a watering can), dry off and an occasional waxing ;)
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Mr Sheen is ace for bikes...... I use it....... the silicone stops the dirt sticking, and it's fast. Just use those cheap lint free (blue) cloths from the supermarket.....
 
I've found it better to stick away from cleaning products altogether and use baby wipes to clean the bike. The added advantage for me living in a second floor flat I don't need a water supply and can clean my bike in the warmth of the flat.
 

goo_mason

Champion barbed-wire hurdler
Location
Leith, Edinburgh
HLaB said:
I've found it better to stick away from cleaning products altogether and use baby wipes to clean the bike. The added advantage for me living in a second floor flat I don't need a water supply and can clean my bike in the warmth of the flat.

As a top-floor flat man. I'd echo the baby-wipes scenario. Plus I also stand the bike in the bath and stretch the shower head out of the shower cabinet, and give it a showering down, a spray of Muc-Off, a bit of a brush in the really encrusted bits, then a good rinse / dry / re-lube.

If you've just come in from a mucky commute, it's best to stick the bike straight in the bath before the gunk dries on...
 
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summerdays

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Thanks ... I even have muck off which I used to use to clean my chain but since I've gone over to the other side... (MM) I don't use it any more.
 
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summerdays

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Also is there any advantage to leaving more oil on the chain when the conditions are like this...? And you know its likely to get washed off...
 

RSV_Ecosse

Senior Member
I don't believe there is ( however, I'm relatively new to cycling so I'm only going by my 20 years motorcycling experience when it comes to chains :headshake: ).

As long as the links are lubricated on the chain that's the important part. I don't think bicycle chains have "O" rings but I know on a motorcycle that the important components on the chain that require lubricating are the links or the points where the chain "moves".

Keeping the side plates of the chain lubricated won't do anything for the actual performance of the chain, save for protect it to a certain extent from ongoing ferous corrosion. The only other thing too much oil may attract is an accumulation of dirt, grit etc which can eventually find its way between links and turn into a sort of grinding paste that can accelerate wear if its not cleaned properly before lubing.

Which reminds me, once you have washed the bike and hosed it down, then allow it to dry completely before thinking about lubrication.

Otherwise all you do in most cases if the components are still wet is seal in the moisture. You need to thoroughly dry off the components ( I usually use kitchen towel followed by a rag ) and then apply the lube.

After you have dried off the components, especially the chain, its generally best to use some sort of spray on cleaner ( not lube - there's a difference between lube/oil and spray on cleaner ) in order to get rid of the grit and dirt that washing may have missed. Most of these cleaners nowadays have Teflon or similar built in so they do lubricate to a certain degree.

I use stuff called TF2 which comes in a green spray can and can be bought in Tescos very cheaply.

So my bike cleaning procedure goes :-

Hose down/rinse off >>>> apply Muc-Off using various sizes of brush >>>> allow to soak for a few minutes >>>> rinse off >>>> dry off >>>> clean components using TF2 >>>> lubricate where required.

If the bike is really minging it gets either a second application of Muc-Off between rinses or I use a sponge and some Turtle Wax car shampoo.

After all that as a finishing touch and to help preserve the paintwork etc, I usually use a can of stuff called "Show & Shine" by Autoglym. It's designed for motorbike paintwork and it goes on a bit like Mr.Sheen only the result is better and it protects more.

It sounds like a bit of a long winded process, but I believe that if I've invested £1k in a bike it should be afforded the treatment that it deserves. Over my years of riding motorcycles, I've built up quite an arsenal of cleaning products and not only that, I know what works and what doesn't, certainly when it comes to motorbikes. I believe this applies to 99% of cleaning processes on a non powered 2 wheeler!!!.

:evil:
 
summerdays said:
Also is there any advantage to leaving more oil on the chain when the conditions are like this...? And you know its likely to get washed off...

I'm a bit more generous when wiping the chain through a oily cloth at this time of the year, mainly because the chain gets wet far more and I like to keep the surfaces protected.
 
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summerdays

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I regularly clean my chain ... using the oily rag method ... I don't usually do the rest of the bike - it sort of looks clean to me... it usually seems to get very well washed by the rain:biggrin: (like today). I use the TF2 stuff on the rag, and then use Finish Line Wet to actually lubricate the chain - dripping it onto the rollers - not the sides. And I usually wipe the rings, cassette and rear derailieur with the oil rag too.

So it looks as if I maybe need to improve my washing technique.
 
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