Bow Flyover collision Friday 11/11/11

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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
RIP. My father died a week ago. As he was 95 and very frail at the end I can accept his death as necessary and inevitable. There's nothing necessary or inevitable about yet another cyclist fatality under the wheels of a lorry.
 

Miquel In De Rain

No Longer Posting
so it's the roundabout and not the flyover

different things


Unusual on the flyover,I hope it stays that way but the slip road is pretty dodgy.

R.I.P
 

Shaun

Founder
Moderator
This is plainly an RIP thread so I've moved the latter posts to a new thread in the Campaign and Public Policy forum:
https://www.cyclechat.net/

I appreciate that there were one or two RIPs in amongst the posts I've moved, but I felt it more appropriate to separate this RIP thread from the wider discussion about safety/cycing superhighways/Big City cycling etc.

Shaun
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
This is plainly an RIP thread so I've moved the latter posts to a new thread in the Campaign and Public Policy forum:
http://www.cyclechat...t-second-death/

I appreciate that there were one or two RIPs in amongst the posts I've moved, but I felt it more appropriate to separate this RIP thread from the wider discussion about safety/cycing superhighways/Big City cycling etc.

Shaun

Much appreciated, Shaun.
 
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JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
There was a piece on the BBC London News at 18:30 ish this eve about the Bow Flyover/RAB, with an interview with the widow of the chap who was killed three weeks ago.

The London Cycling Campaign has launched an email petition to Mayor Boris Johnton:

Petition here

I know that this is a London-centric issue, but almost everyone who reads or contributes to this forum cycles, and the issues surrounding the so-called Cycle Superhighways might well affect cyclists in other towns and cities.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
RIP. My father died a week ago. As he was 95 and very frail at the end I can accept his death as necessary and inevitable. There's nothing necessary or inevitable about yet another cyclist fatality under the wheels of a lorry.

Sorry to hear that DM - lost mine a couple of years ago (at the tolerable age of 72) and still having to deal with stuff relating to it. Hope you get a good chance to grieve and don't have to spend all your time dealing with all the associated admin and unsympathetic call centres!
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
There was a piece on the BBC London News at 18:30 ish this eve about the Bow Flyover/RAB, with an interview with the widow of the chap who was killed three weeks ago.

The London Cycling Campaign has launched an email petition to Mayor Boris Johnton:

Petition here

I know that this is a London-centric issue, but almost everyone who reads or contributes to this forum cycles, and the issues surrounding the so-called Cycle Superhighways might well affect cyclists in other towns and cities.

Yes, let's do something, even if it is some small thing, to change matters.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Sorry to hear that DM - lost mine a couple of years ago (at the tolerable age of 72) and still having to deal with stuff relating to it. Hope you get a good chance to grieve and don't have to spend all your time dealing with all the associated admin and unsympathetic call centres!

Thanks, Jezston. Though I'm feeling a bit numb, I believe I did much of my grieving while he was still alive. Of course, only time will tell.

But, back to preventable deaths: it seems like a suitable time to ''invite'' Boris to cycle from the Olympic site to City Hall, much of which is along CS2, with a bunch of experienced cyclists, so that we can show him the inadequacies of the route.
 
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JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
Thanks, Jezston. Though I'm feeling a bit numb, I believe I did much of my grieving while he was still alive. Of course, only time will tell.

But, back to preventable deaths: it seems like a suitable time to ''invite'' Boris to cycle from the Olympic site to City Hall, much of which is along CS2, with a bunch of experienced cyclists, so that we can show him the inadequacies of the route.

+1 A splendid idea. Bring along that TfL spokesperson, too.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Dear Mayor,

I've cycled the cycle superhighway twice in the last month. In this time I have had a chance to get a first-hand impression of the route. And for each time I've ridden it, of course, a cyclist has been killed.

I believe that the route has to be ridden to be understood, and accordingly, I invite you to join us (at a time that's convenient for you) in a small group of experienced cyclists on a route from the Olympic side to City Hall. Or vice versa, if you prefer. It is only by experiencing the junctions, the way all forms of traffic routinely ignore the blue lane markings, and how there is no effective enforcement aimed at keeping the lane open to cyclists, that you will ever fully understand its grave failings and the future fatalities which it is almost certain to cause. You may even discover that you will no longer wish to find your name associated with a cycle superhighway of this kind.

I hope you will be able to take up this invitation.

Yours,
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
For anyone who will be in London at the time, there will be a candlelit vigil on Friday night at the Bow Roundabout. It's been organised by the LCC groups in Tower Hamlets and Newham.

"Local London Cycling Campaign groups in Tower Hamlets and Newham are organising a candlelit vigil at Bow roundabout on the evening of Friday 18 November 2011 to commemorate the two cyclists killed there in recent weeks.

Representatives from Tower Hamlets Wheelers and Newham Cyclists will be at the roundabout from 6-7pm, and people from all over Greater London are being encouraged to join them.

Tower Hamlets' cyclist Gerry Matthews said, "We hope local people find the time to join our vigil, perhaps for a few minutes on their way home if they travel through the roundabout."

Regional and local politicians have also been invited to take part, and it's hoped they'll stand side by side with local cyclists in calling for the Mayor to redesign the roundabout to make it safe for walkers and cyclists."
 
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