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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Wet, carbon brake surfaces and possibly the wrong pads. Glad you are still here !:whistle:

Were you on carbon rims ?

Get carbon specific, ideally the ones made by the same folk who make your carbon rims.

Koolstop Salmons are for alloy rims.

Never had a heat blow out though !
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
IME Koolstop Salmons are simply not that good, there are better pads out there. But the Koolstop are priced pretty well (or they where when I bought them).
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
[QUOTE 2960809, member: 259"]74kg on a loaded commuter bike, about 14kg. I ride an average of 28 Kmh and I go down some pretty steep slopes (moving at 55 kmh max).

I'm not in the mud, but it has rained almost every day for the past three months! :ohmy:[/quote]
well yourself and your bike - which is 88kg is still 22kg's lighter than myself an 32kgs lighter with bike weight added - i was descending the maerdy and rhigos mountains at circa 16% at speeds hitting 40mph in the rain

IT WAS NOT FUN, when you find your breaks don't work and when you do get them working, they over heat and cause a front tyre blowout
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Wet, carbon brake surfaces and possibly the wrong pads. Glad you are still here !:whistle:

Were you on carbon rims ?

Get carbon specific, ideally the ones made by the same folk who make your carbon rims.

Koolstop Salmons are for alloy rims.

Never had a heat blow out though !
no fossy i was on alloys - no way would i have ridden carbons in that weather on sunday - i wouldn't be here if i did.

when the tyre blew, i turned the bike over and burnt my fingers on the rims, they were that hot

i had to wait a few minutes before i could attempt to change the tube
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I use Clarks pads throughout my bikes, although have just fitted some Dura Ace ones to two of my bikes. Both seem to perform exactly the same, and I've no issues.
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
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this is the ride profile for sunday's ride - had the hot rim blowout on the first descent
 
Just noticed that Swissstop released a new Blue BXP Alu rim block last year and claim better stopping distance than the Green GHP 2's.

http://www.swissstop.ch/Road.aspx
 

Buzzinonbikes

Senior Member
Location
Manchester
well yourself and your bike - which is 88kg is still 22kg's lighter than myself an 32kgs lighter with bike weight added - i was descending the maerdy and rhigos mountains at circa 16% at speeds hitting 40mph in the rain

IT WAS NOT FUN, when you find your breaks don't work and when you do get them working, they over heat and cause a front tyre blowout

In those conditions I would say ANY brake pad would struggle if you were letting the bike run up to 40MPH and then braking.
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
My friends had no problems stopping and one guy was on carbons with swisstop yellows.
 

CycleHighInValhalla

New Member
Location
Valhalla
no fossy i was on alloys - no way would i have ridden carbons in that weather on sunday - i wouldn't be here if i did.

when the tyre blew, i turned the bike over and burnt my fingers on the rims, they were that hot

i had to wait a few minutes before i could attempt to change the tube

What did you do to your rim tape?
 

outlash

also available in orange
Sounds to me like you're letting yourself get up a head of speed, then expecting your brakes to work like a car's. Most brakes would struggle to cope with that in the conditions you describe. Most brakes would also slow you down if you descend at a steady pace, I've done it a fair few times on my cross bike with it's cantilever brakes and clarkes pads, which have now been changed to koolstop salmons as they're vastly superior.
I don't doubt swisstops are better but if you're going down 16% er's in the wet, you don't want to be going quick regardless.


Tony
 
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jowwy

Can't spell, Can't Punctuate....Sue Me
Sounds to me like you're letting yourself get up a head of speed, then expecting your brakes to work like a car's. Most brakes would struggle to cope with that in the conditions you describe. Most brakes would also slow you down if you descend at a steady pace, I've done it a fair few times on my cross bike with it's cantilever brakes and clarkes pads, which have now been changed to koolstop salmons as they're vastly superior.
I don't doubt swisstops are better but if you're going down 16% er's in the wet, you don't want to be going quick regardless.


Tony
I run discs on all my bikes now so its no longer a problem
 
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