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kingrollo

kingrollo

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First loaf cooked. Doddle ! - really pleased.
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kingrollo

kingrollo

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Not sure what level of salt you are looking for but
My recipe which I’ve used for 40 years
1/2 tsp instant yeast
400g Wholemeal flour
5 g salt
5g sugar
300 ml water
I use program 5 on the Panasonic

in a 50g slice of bread you are taking in 1/3 g of salt.
Reduce the amount of salt to 3g or nothing you probably won’t see any difference.
IME flour is important and I’ve used supermarket budget to premium brands. Ever since the Covid shortages I’ve continally used Organic flour from Shipton Mill.

Hi - I have ordered some doves farm organic wholemeal flour. But I have been reading how it is harder to get a rise with organic flour and the recipe needs to be adjusted?

Any thoughts/experience?
 

newts

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Isca Dumnoniorum
Hi - I have ordered some doves farm organic wholemeal flour. But I have been reading how it is harder to get a rise with organic flour and the recipe needs to be adjusted?

Any thoughts/experience?

I don't use a bread maker, bake in a casserole dish. This is Doves organic bread flour + 10% Doves wholemeal & it rose well. I find adding higher % of wholemeal makes the bread too heavy.

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OldShep

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Hi - I have ordered some doves farm organic wholemeal flour. But I have been reading how it is harder to get a rise with organic flour and the recipe needs to be adjusted?

Any thoughts/experience?

I find with Shipton Mill wholemeal never to stint any recommended quantity of water. Looking at my recipe again I missed out 15ml of oil.
It is numbers I use as a base and in reality the loaf I made yesterday had 3/4 tsp of yeast as it is getting old and near the bottom of the tin. Water added was 310 ml.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
Hi - I have ordered some doves farm organic wholemeal flour. But I have been reading how it is harder to get a rise with organic flour and the recipe needs to be adjusted?

Any thoughts/experience?

Organic flour absorbs more water than non-organic, so you will need to increase the hydration level.

Are you still aiming to use 100% wholemeal? If so, you’ll need a very high hydration level, anything from 80% up to 90% or even more.
 

Gwylan

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All at sea⛵
Well done.

Lidl or Aldi bread flour works well. Also more reasonably priced.
A touch more yeast and sugar and a bit less salt and the results are more than satisfactory.

Our Panasonic is 2009 vintage and I like it for the product and because you can get spares. Ours is a bit like Trig's broom. But still delivers.
 
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kingrollo

kingrollo

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I find with Shipton Mill wholemeal never to stint any recommended quantity of water. Looking at my recipe again I missed out 15ml of oil.
It is numbers I use as a base and in reality the loaf I made yesterday had 3/4 tsp of yeast as it is getting old and near the bottom of the tin. Water added was 310 ml.

Sorry it may be a typo - but do you mean not stick to any recommendated levels of water ?
 

Alex321

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Location
South Wales
Sorry it may be a typo - but do you mean not stick to any recommendated levels of water ?

I think they just meant be generous rather than short on the measure of the liquid.
 

T4tomo

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First loaf cooked. Doddle ! - really pleased.
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Looks very acceptable!
I don't use a bread maker, bake in a casserole dish. This is Doves organic bread flour + 10% Doves wholemeal & it rose well. I find adding higher % of wholemeal makes the bread too heavy.

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This is proof of what I was saying up thread, baked in an oven gives a much more pleasing loaf than baked in the bread maker machine.

Top marks to @newts you could sell that for £4.50 at a "farmers market"
 
We've been using machines for nearly 30 years - daily when we had kids, every 2-3 days now we're on our own. We go half and half white and wholemeal on the white setting with some walnuts or seeds from the hopper as our go-to loaf.
My MIL tells the story of when she decided to get a machine: Twenty six years ago, MIL had to rush around to ours in the middle of the night to look after our 13 month old little girl as their sibling was making a sudden appearance 😁. In the morning MIL saw me, after at most one hours sleep and with my daughter on my hip, throw ingredients into the bread maker one-handed before rushing back to the hospital to pick up wife and new baby daughter. I picked up some pate and interesting cheese while I was out (which had been forbidden to my wife while pregnant) and we all had a very happy and excellent lunch🍞. MIL's view was (and still is) that if I could use a bread machine to make such an excellent loaf of bread on no sleep and totally distracted, it was worth getting one😂
 
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