Bring back the basic & simple cars

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About a month ago my 86 year old father treated himself to a 2.5 yr old Honda Jazz to replace his older version of same car .

Ever since getting it he has complained that its too complicated for him , ie headlights turn on for themselves and dip themselves etc etc . And for the umpteenth time last night i had to show him how to scroll through the dash display panel so he could see how much mpg and miles he is doing .

He likes to record everything ie amount of steps he does a day , how much sleep, how many miles he does a day driving etc etc .

Its a great car but at 86 i think dad is struggling to grasp the changes over his slightly older one and he keeps saying he wishes he bought the same as before just a bit newer . He even commented that his old Saab 93 two stroke that he had in the 60's never had all these gizmo's !!

Ah, the engine that would seize up on downhill sections if throttle was not kept open :smile:
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Ah, the engine that would seize up on downhill sections if throttle was not kept open :smile:
That's why they fitted a 'freewheel' to em (although strictly speaking it was a one-way roller clutch)
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
They just don't build them like they used to
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Don't get me started on TV's - We taught my mother in law the on/off and up down for volume and channels. We did not mention the SMART features - iplayer would be too complicated (and result in many phone calls when she get's stuck on a menu). The number of 'Sky isn't working' calls we got when my Father in law died (she wasn't pressing the HDMI1 button) - that took about a year for her to grasp it to do 'on her own'.

She is just managing to use a kindle tablet though, but's still too 'press happy'.
My MiL has a mahoosive Smart TV that she was given.

With her eyesight it works because everything is so big.

As for a remote we have this:

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Channel up, channel down, volume up, volume down, on and off

Works brilliantly and saves the numerous phone calls because she has retuned it or selected HDMI input by pressing random buttons on the original remote
 
This thread reminds me I must find out why the Alfas wipers self parking isn't working. Or for that matter if they are actually supposed to self park.
On the other end of the spectrum my wifes Zoe has many technological things.

Nice to have some variety.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I have an old VW Caddy which is basically a MKI Golf pickup. Last summer I took it to a tyre centre to chech steering alignment and the c19 year old guy who did told me the power steering was faulty when gave it back to me. I pointed out it didn't have any and he claimed to have seen a VW without PS before!

With hindsight I regret not asking him to have a look to see why it wasn't working....
 
XKR?
Ever so slightly jealous. But I mustn't.
Believe me, it wasn't a car that was ever on my radar
I liked the look of it when it came out, but at the cost of a new one, it was w-a-y beyond us

SWMBO had a company Mondeo, when she worked for a consultancy firm
In 2008, they announced that cars were being withdrawn (I forget why) & cash added to salaries
I had suggested another Mondeo, but an estate, or an Octavia

She fancied something a bit more 'fancy'
We looked at/test-drove the Toyota Celica, the Mazda RX8 (nice, but felt like it wanted to 'go' all the time), & a few others

Her dad had, at the time, a Jaguar X-Type, so she'd gone down to the showroom with him, when it went for a service
And... ended up looking at XKs inside (& liking)
She told me this, so I thought I'd do my own 'daydreaming' research too
Thus, I ended up, on my days-off, test-driving a TVR Chimera, a Griffith 500 & a Cerbera - the 'baby 4.2
(I'd driven a few on a track day, for my 40th, including the mentalist Sagaris, & to this day have a soft-spot for the Griff 500)

Then... on a visit for something else to the Jaguar dealer, there was a XKR outside, & during the conversation with the salesman, he offered her the keys
I phoned her up, later in the day, & she told me she was considering paying a deposit on a car
She told me, but wasn't sure which one
"Did you notice if it had louvres on the bonnet, my dear?"
"Yes"

Cue my, almost, whimpering, as I imagined insurance quotations as high as they wanted to make them
We both drove it, I even managed to get in the back & be reasonably comfortable, but wouldn't have wanted to travel for more than an hour
X88 JLT. Out & About. Wakefield. Chantry Bridge. 1.JPG X88 JLT. Technical. Engine. 1.JPG

With my 110 (also long-gone)
X88 JLT. & S50 RAT. 1.JPG

It wasn't a bad car, I remember we went to Cardiff in it, for one of her meetings, & it worked out at roughly 30MPG, & some 'interesting speeds' along the M50/A40, chasing a B*W (with the Battle of Britain' theme playing in my head)
Insurance wise, it was about £400 a year, on a 7,000 mile limit (I think we did about 11,000 in 3 years)

Downsides;
Auto gearbox (could be manually changed) - one company did offer a 6-speed manual conversion, using a Tremec(?) from a Corvette, but it was £10,000+
Sounded too refined - could probably have been rectified with a different exhaust, but it was okay during the time we had it
Too many gadgets - electric seats, electric steering column (that lowered into place, when key inserted)
Visually - the brake calipers looked 'plain-jane', it had an electric (stainless sectional) aerial!!!!


Well, you did (sort of) ask:okay:
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Don't get me started on TV's - We taught my mother in law the on/off and up down for volume and channels. We did not mention the SMART features - iplayer would be too complicated (and result in many phone calls when she get's stuck on a menu). The number of 'Sky isn't working' calls we got when my Father in law died (she wasn't pressing the HDMI1 button) - that took about a year for her to grasp it to do 'on her own'.

She is just managing to use a kindle tablet though, but's still too 'press happy'.
I have to ask @Hill Wimp to operate the anbaric distascope for me, it's mind boggling the different options and controllers!
 
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