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ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
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Rides Ti2
Totally confused now, for the last 12 months I was convinced my Apollo twin bouncer was a bso, bit hey, it did over 1000 miles in 9 months, regularly went out of adjustment though. I took it as a flat pack as Halfords wanted 2 days to build it( they must have had a good selling day that day!!) And managed to get it up and running in a couple of hours,adjusted half decently , it was all part of a valuable learning process. Now I have replaced it with a GT Aggressor xc2 I can certainly appreciate the difference, also looking forward to the next upgrade to road bike

Halford's bikes are not bso's. They do at least have half decent components. They certainly don't have plastic brake levers or bolts.
The problem with Halford's bikes is that the majority of mechanics in Halfords are next to useless and you will see on this forum
time and again people saying when you buy a bike from Halford's take it to a LBS to get it set up properly.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
It isn't because they want to an more because they don't see why they shouldn't. IMHO.
Maybe they should.
Teach them their way around a bike better than anything else will. Its the way most of us learnt.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
Totally confused now, for the last 12 months I was convinced my Apollo twin bouncer was a bso, bit hey, it did over 1000 miles in 9 months, regularly went out of adjustment though. I took it as a flat pack as Halfords wanted 2 days to build it( they must have had a good selling day that day!!) And managed to get it up and running in a couple of hours,adjusted half decently , it was all part of a valuable learning process. Now I have replaced it with a GT Aggressor xc2 I can certainly appreciate the difference, also looking forward to the next upgrade to road bike
Dont listen to anyone - apollo are fantastic bikes.
 

Bicycle

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The article is very, very funny and will provide plenty of ammunition for one side of this discussion. Perhaps rightly.

I think it's fabulous that someone took the trouble to do what they did here.

However, it reminds me up to a point of some larks I used to get up to racing Citroen 2CVs.

The jape was similar: Taking a machine designed for anything other than the use to which it was to be put - and then caning it to the flag or to destruction.

You could argue (and I would) that the 2CV was in truth an extremely well-engineered car and therefore not a CSO [car-shaped object].

However, it was not designed for the particular stresses of track racing and even with the best mechanics there was a lot of grief trying to get one round a track for the whole of a 24-hour race.

The steering arms would bend under the stress of racing speeds. I never saw that happen in many years to a car driven as intended. But at racing speeds they turned to butter. That's on a car that was in production with little modification and a fine reliability record for many decades. Many teams welded angle iron to the arms to hold then in position. Not a fix that's popular at McLaren....

There were many other areas where the cars were modified to allow them to complete 24 racing hours.

I do not argue for a moment that the bicycles in the posted article are quality products, but the argument isn't strengthened by putting them through the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Special Forces Selection Process and demonstrating that they're not up to it.

Great article though.... Well done finding it.
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
Apollos are not great - heavy and need constant adjusting, but they're perfectly serviceable.

My 9-year old's bike is an Apollo hardtail and I'm secretly ashamed when he has to ride that with me on our 10-15 mile rides. Them little legs having to propel that heap of iron whereas I'm cruising on my 7005 aluminium frame. But, hey, it'll make him stronger right?

Still, as AngelFish and Ian, I wouldn't class them as BSOs.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Apollos are not great - heavy and need constant adjusting, but they're perfectly serviceable.

My 9-year old's bike is an Apollo hardtail and I'm secretly ashamed when he has to ride that with me on our 10-15 mile rides. Them little legs having to propel that heap of iron whereas I'm cruising on my 7005 aluminium frame. But, hey, it'll make him stronger right?

Still, as AngelFish and Ian, I wouldn't class them as BSOs.

They are the borderline between BSO and Bike IMHO.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
Sadly by the number I see in skips, landfill sites and abandoned it seems to teach the lay populous that bikes last a few months if you are lucky and they are not worth riding.
Least it should have taught them is dont but another flat pack bike from asda / tescos.
Wish i saw some in skips - now i have cancelled ben nevis i will have to pop down my local landfill site.
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
I do not argue for a moment that the bicycles in the posted article are quality products, but the argument isn't strengthened by putting them through the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Special Forces Selection Process and demonstrating that they're not up to it.

Great article though.... Well done finding it.

I think it would be called a stress test. Putting the bike through a lifetime of abuse in a short space of time. Sadly most bikes ended their lives crippled. Less Special Forces selection and more basic training IMHO. (Assuming that most people will treat these things as MTB's)
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
Least it should have taught them is dont but another flat pack bike from asda / tescos.
Wish i saw some in skips - now i have cancelled ben nevis i will have to pop down my local landfill site.

I think I understand what you mean in your first sentence. Next time I am at the Cycling centre I will take my camera and post a few picks.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
They are the borderline between BSO and Bike IMHO.
I disagree.
I own an apollo and its excellent. 20 miles a day and its excellent.
The - you will realise the poor quality when you upgrade to a decent bike - arguement i dont agree with.
In absolute terms it is excellent and in relative terms ; well comparisons are odious.
 
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