Buying a used carbon frame?

[cosmicbike]

Any pointers? Looking at building my n+1 on a bit of a budget, looking at a branded carbon frame which looks ok, but is a few years old and I will be buying it 'blind'.
Ta

 

[Berties]

Examine every inch of frame,any dents or imperfections no matter how small,steer away ,I have a frame that I've had from new being mended as I type ,just some thing off the road hit the rear stay,I just tap around the mark and the sound changed ,crude track test but it works,carbon tends to deteriate in crash cases from the in side out,I even seen mock up reports from frame makers,and then break ,defiantly buyer beware

 

[vickster]

@smokeysmoo makes some good points here

http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/2004-carbon-bike-vs-new-bike.158929/

Have a look at planetx clearance pages for new end of line frames, perhaps ribble too

 

[Rooster1]

I have been put off by pretty much everyone I have spoken to from buying a second hand carbon frame but I will probably take the plunge one day.

 

[vickster]

Or save up for a new one while waiting for that one day to come