Buying Booze

[cd365]

This happened to me in Morrison's, I was having a BBQ party and took my 16 year old son along to help me carry four crates of beer. They asked for my son's ID to which I said I'm buying it why does my son need it? I kicked off, got the manager over who let me buy it "this time".

 

[headcoat]

Does appear to be over zealous as a lot of people shopping in supermarkets are families and hence have under 18's with them. Like the OP said, I would have left my shopping there and gone to Asda or Tesco etc etc

 

[headcoat]

.....The police use minors to go into super markets etc and try and buy alcohol this is called a test purchase ....

Couldn't this also be entrapment

 

[marinyork]

I can't see Morrisons stating that they will refuse the "Family Unit" a bottle of wine with a weeks shopping, they could lose a lot of business that way.

You joke, but the reality is Morrisons have had a number of high profile refusals in particular stores since 2003. What tends to happen is these stores are targeted by trading standards and then you will get a handful of the ludicrous stories that appear in the news. It's hardly a secret, the police sometimes even brag about their operations and it appears in all the newspapers around here about where they are targeting. The problem is that Morrisons and various ASDAs take the so called proxy sale issue to ludicrous extremes. Other supermarkets aren't necessarily any better, allegedly another supermarket has the policy of always 'backing' the cashier's decision.

 

[cd365]

Couldn't this also be entrapment

In the USA yes

 

[Alun]

Couldn't this also be entrapment

Or child abuse ?

 

[Alun]

In the USA yes

and the UK !

 

[Nearly there]

Couldn't this also be entrapment

I suppose but generally most people serving Alcohol have a bit of common sense and most teens 18+ expect to be asked for I.D now.A woman I know her son(16) was recently caught buying booze from an offy by the police naturally the booze was confiscated and the person in the offy was fined on the spot either accept the fine or go to court and risk a bigger fine the shop also had its license revoked for 48hrs with the threat of losing it completly

 

[marinyork]

It called "think 25 policy" its there to protect companies who sell alcohol as its hard to judge a teenagers age the policy is if someone looks under 25 you ask for I.D,also If an adult is purchasing alcohol with a minor the person can refuse the sale if they suspect that the adult is buying it for the minor.The police use minors to go into super markets etc and try and buy alcohol this is called a test purchase and is designed to make sure sellers of alcohol are adhering to the policy anyone caught out can recieve an on the spot fine £80 (i think) or taken to court,also the offending shop can lose its license to sell alcohol.The Think 25 policy also covers the sale of tobacco video games Dvds fireworks magazines etc You even have to apply the policy if you see someone who appears to be a minor on a booze aisle in a supermarket you can ask for I.D and ask them to leave that aisle even if there just looking.

Think 25 is one set of standards. There is no god given set of standards to adhere to by law. By quoting a particular one you may appear to be giving credence to one over others. There are various other standards. Many are set at 21, some sellers are even 30. A supermarket I shop at moved from 21 to 25 not so long ago. As regards 'proxy sales', think 25 actually says there must be 'clear evidence' of this, it doesn't actually say just 'if they suspect that the adult is buying it for the minor' which is a very different thing. If you actually look into what they mean by 'clear' evidence I would use a stronger word such 'overwhelming' or 'strong'. The reality is what they mean for 'proxy sales' is unlikely to happen unless someone runs through a store and loudly shouts that they are buying it for someone underage or if a someone under 18 decided to make a confession to a cashier.

 

[snorri]

At current projections it'll be show 'ID' if you look under 50 when I get to that age.

You're already concealing your ID, I didnt realise it was you speaking when I didn't see the familiar avatar.

 

[marinyork]

You're already concealing your ID, I didnt realise it was you speaking when I didn't see the familiar avatar.

Jawas are 'hoodies' that speak in an undecipherable language so they don't get served. I can see the similarity to youths there .

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Morrisons how ghastly, yet another reason to stick to Waitrose.

 

[User169]

Morrisons how ghastly, yet another reason to stick to Waitrose.

It was only wine. The cashier was doing the bloke a favour.

 

[Gingerbloke]

Saw exactly the same thing in Morrisons when a family was trying to buy some fireworks, they asked their son to choose a firework, after which the assistant then refused to sell it to them as he was underage. Result - I had to wait 10 minutes while it all kicked off.....!!!

 

[Hacienda71]

If your mate was buying a bottle of cider, two cans of special brew, a bottle of buckfast and a four pack of WKD and his son was saying "hurry up dad Dave Matt and I need to get down the park sharpish" then I might understand the supermarkets retisense, other than that they are idiots.