C2W Scheme - Proof of 50% worth of commuting??

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400bhp

Guru
You are entitled to be ****ed off, fair point.

My scheme isn't open to company car drivers unfortunately so I can't go on it anyway.

Although, I feel you aren't looking at it correctly. I'm a 40% tax payer and as such I pay a lot of tax, plus I pay extra tax for the use of a company car so all in. All I pay a LOT of tax. I'm not moaning about that as such, I'm in a lucky position and I know it.

But, benefitting by around £400 by going on this scheme would be a drop in a large tax ocean PLUS as I would commute on some occasions leaving my car at home I would be getting one more car off the road for at least a bit more than otherwise and it may encourage others to do the same.

Just to be clear. You only pay less tax because you buy a bike. The bike being more than the tax saving. Lots of people seem to miss that. So you are in a net worse position.
 

NotthatJasonKenny

Faster on HFLC
Location
Bolton
Just to be clear. You only pay less tax because you buy a bike. The bike being more than the tax saving. Lots of people seem to miss that. So you are in a net worse position.

True, and as I would have been buying British build off a British company who pay british corporation tax...
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
You are entitled to be ****ed off, fair point.

My scheme isn't open to company car drivers unfortunately so I can't go on it anyway.

Although, I feel you aren't looking at it correctly. I'm a 40% tax payer and as such I pay a lot of tax, plus I pay extra tax for the use of a company car so all in. All I pay a LOT of tax. I'm not moaning about that as such, I'm in a lucky position and I know it.

But, benefitting by around £400 by going on this scheme would be a drop in a large tax ocean PLUS as I would commute on some occasions leaving my car at home I would be getting one more car off the road for at least a bit more than otherwise and it may encourage others to do the same.

You only pay 40% tax on earnings above £42k iirc. You don't pay 40% on ALL your income. So you must have a pretty good income. The scheme still unfairly favours high earners i.e. those that pay 40% tax.
 

winjim

Smash the cistern
You only pay 40% tax on earnings above £42k iirc. You don't pay 40% on ALL your income. So you must have a pretty good income. The scheme still unfairly favours high earners i.e. those that pay 40% tax.
40% tax bracket is somewhere in the region of £32k. So not megabucks.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
if you have a bike already, getting a scheme bike would do nothing to increase your opportunity to cycle commute

I could still get a bike on the scheme and commute on it though. AFAIK there are no restrictions ……. that if you already ride to and from work on a bike you've already bought with your own cash without tax relief you are ineligible to use the C2W scheme.
 
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NotthatJasonKenny

Faster on HFLC
Location
Bolton
You only pay 40% tax on earnings above £42k iirc. You don't pay 40% on ALL your income. So you must have a pretty good income. The scheme still unfairly favours high earners i.e. those that pay 40% tax.

Yeah, £32k as stated but I drive an expensive company car so that allowance takes up most of my tax allowance so I do pay a lot of tax. Not complaining, I'm very lucky.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
40% tax bracket is somewhere in the region of £32k.
Nope, it's £31,866 plus your personal allowance, so for most people 40% tax kicks in at £41,866. (The exception is if you earn more than £100k, when your personal allowance decreases by £1 for every £2 you earn, reaching zero at £120k gross income.)
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
The scheme still unfairly favours high earners i.e. those that pay 40% tax.
Higher earners get more benefit from the scheme, but whether that is unfair is debatable as they pay a lot more tax in the first place.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I think I better turn myself in. In mitigation I shall point out that my boss at the time did the same so I foolishly presumed it was ok.

Tell a lie, I did commute on it once and used it that day to teach a refresher course.
 
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Learnincurve

Senior Member
Location
Chesterfield
It makes me sad that people are being given a free bike, when I don't get one. :sad:

Why no bikes for full time carers if it's about environmental impact? We get paid well under minimum wage as it is and it would be a nice "thank you for not saying "no pay someone from the NHS £60k a year to do it, I'll earn more and do less hours working at macdonalds, hey wonder if they would give me a free bike""
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Who's been given a free bike?

I'm a full time carer for a wheelchair bound spouse and still work full-time (I work for the rest!)

In essence I have 2 full-time jobs, one of which is unpaid, and I buy my own bikes like everyone else has to.
 

winjim

Smash the cistern
Nope, it's £31,866 plus your personal allowance, so for most people 40% tax kicks in at £41,866. (The exception is if you earn more than £100k, when your personal allowance decreases by £1 for every £2 you earn, reaching zero at £120k gross income.)
I was under the impression it included your personal allowance. I stand corrected.
 
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