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Mike5537

Active Member
How can I convince my workplace to enter the scheme? Does anyone know whats in it for employers or if it costs them anything so I can explain it to the powers that be and get my new bike!
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stephen.rooke

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How can I convince my workplace to enter the scheme? Does anyone know whats in it for employers or if it costs them anything so I can explain it to the powers that be and get my new bike!
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they save on employer ni contributions, can claim the vat back and have a happy healthy workforce/ my employer signed up recently, we have 100.000 employees so if only a fraction sign up there could be big benefits. got my boardman road comp on it today
 

defy-one

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Tell them it saves money , keeps employees happy and all they have to do is install a secure bike shed
 
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Mike5537

Mike5537

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They have a bike shed already, so it doesnt cost them anything to join or fees or anything? I thought they bought the bike and I hire it from them? If it costs them nothing I may be able to convince them!

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lejogger

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Location
Wirral
There are a number of ways to implement the scheme with a number of different companies - or you can get your employers to run it themselves. It's not a lot of work, but it usually requires someone with a bit of enthusiasm to put a bit of effort in.
From your previous posts I know you're looking at a Boardman... the Halfords scheme would therefore be the one you want.
Halfords do all the advertising etc and have a website that you log into to register and apply. It costs nothing apart from the time for an administrator to review and approve the applications, and the time it takes for payroll to action the salary sacrifices and your accounts team to keep track of the repayments.
The cheapest way is for your employers to fork out initially for the cost of the bikes. We have a 1-2 month window and then pay 1 invoice to Halfords for all the bikes bought in that period. Then we recover the money back from the employees over 12 months. Work gets all the money back, and they also make a fair bit of saving on employers NI. Staff save on income tax and NI so everyone's a winner :thumbsup:
You're right that work have to buy the bikes, but as it's all recovered in 12 months it's no real loss to them. There are ways where your employers don't have to pay out anything, but that means taking out a loan, which obviously will cost those in the scheme as the interest repayments will come from your savings.
There's also the issue of the exchange of ownership once the loan period has finished. The easiest way to navigate this is for work to give the bikes to the staff as a benefit in kind, which incurs a small tax charge, but it's a lot cheaper than paying the HMRC guideline amounts.
Give me a shout if you need me to expain anything a bit more fully.
 
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Mike5537

Mike5537

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Thanks for that info, great help. My biggest concern is what happens if I leave my place of work before the 12 months is up as u can't afford to have to pay it off.

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lejogger

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Location
Wirral
Thanks for that info, great help. My biggest concern is what happens if I leave my place of work before the 12 months is up as u can't afford to have to pay it off.

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If you leave they will take the full amount outstanding from your final pay packet.
 

This Time Next Year

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Location
Portsmouth, UK
Stolen from the halfords employers FAQ page... (http://www.cycle2work.info/siteemployerfaqs)
Just throw all of these at them, should help convince them a bit. There's lots of other useful info on that page for them too.

How can an Employer benefit from the cycle to work scheme?
By operating a cycle to work scheme, an Employer can expect to
  • Improve their reward and recognition program
  • Make savings from Employer's National Insurance contributions
  • Contribute to an environmental or green transport policy
  • Release valuable car parking space with less people using cars to commute
  • Encourage a fitter, healthier lifestyle
 

peedee

Well-Known Member
The company will actually make a bit of money out of running the scheme:
  • It costs nothing to run (apart from putting money up front for the bike).
  • They get the money for the bike back via a salary sacrifice over 12 months.
  • They gain by reduced NICs due to the salary sacrifice.
  • The tax man insists that you then make a final payment to the company for the value of the bike.
In other words, the company recover the cost of the bike via the salary sacrifice. They then get a bonus payment from you in addition. Can't say I like this bit.
 

stephen.rooke

Senior Member
depends, the company can actually give you the bike for free but then you have to just pay tax on what the bike is worth, works out a lot cheaper for you if they do that but paperwork intensive and some company's don't have experience with it, hopefully my company goes that way as its a multi billion ££ business so has the trained accountants etc to do it but i'm not holding my breath on that one :biggrin:
 
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