Cable Car for London

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This seems a rather expensive, intrusive and superfluous intrusion onto a riverside setting already well provided with transport links. Whatever happened to the Greenwich Foot Tunnels anyway? Temporary closures aside, I understand they still operate pretty well. Cable cars are intended for steep mountain slopes and otherwise difficult terrain: that's where they belong best. I would hardly call a normally placid tidal river 'difficult terrain'!

Anyway, I wonder how much it will cost to ride on one of these things?
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
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It's a wonderful idea that will enhance a pretty grotty part of London.
Another one here who can't wait to have a ride.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
This seems a rather expensive, intrusive and superfluous intrusion onto a riverside setting already well provided with transport links. Whatever happened to the Greenwich Foot Tunnels anyway? Temporary closures aside, I understand they still operate pretty well. Cable cars are intended for steep mountain slopes and otherwise difficult terrain: that's where they belong best. I would hardly call a normally placid tidal river 'difficult terrain'!

Anyway, I wonder how much it will cost to ride on one of these things?

Depends what you mean by well provided for. As an outsider when I look at a map of London the further east you go there seems to be a huge lack of crossing points of the river for cyclists, it seems a total joke for such a major city even once you factor in the huge costs and difficulties of how wide the river is. It seems entirely sensible the location they've picked midway between the two foot tunnels.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
Whatever happened to the Greenwich Foot Tunnels anyway?

The Greenwich foot tunnel is a long way from the O2, and my understanding is that target group is concert goers who will not want to walk through the rougher parts of North Greenwich at 11pm after a concert finishes to get to the foot tunnel.

when I took my 4 year old daughter on the Woolwich ferry she loved it, so I'm sure she will love the cable car too.
 

ianrauk

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The Greenwich foot tunnel is a long way from the O2, and my understanding is that target group is concert goers who will not want to walk through the rougher parts of North Greenwich at 11pm after a concert finishes to get to the foot tunnel.

when I took my 4 year old daughter on the Woolwich ferry she loved it, so I'm sure she will love the cable car too.

The Woolwich ferry is one of those little hidden freebie gems that London has to offer.
 

upsidedown

Waiting for the great leap forward
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The middle bit
That looks brilliant, i know nothing about getting around London but anything that is designed exclusively for pedestrians and cyclists has to be a good thing.
 
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dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
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SW2
I like the Woolwich Ferry (I still remember the first time I went across it on 25th July 1961) but it does involve a bit of a wait. And walking to either end is a bit of a trek.

I can't wait to go on the cable car at night! Oh - you'll be able to use Oyster on it. Fantastic!
 
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dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
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SW2
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This is a great idea. Shame it couldn't be in place for the Olympics though.
[/quote]the word is that they're going to give it a go! When you think about it, the engineering is relatively simple, you only need to excavate and pile at a couple of points and the 34 cable cars probably come off the shelf

If this works I can see these items criss-crossing London. Regents Park to Oxford Street. Bank to London Bridge Station. Victoria to Oxford Circus. Sloane Square to Harrods. Westminster to Perdition.

Anyroadup. Let's hear it for TfL. They get a bit of stick for not doing their best for cyclists (and they deserve it on CS5 and Blackfriars Bridge) but having a cable car that takes bikes is pretty darn spiffy!
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
This seems a rather expensive, intrusive and superfluous intrusion onto a riverside setting already well provided with transport links. Whatever happened to the Greenwich Foot Tunnels anyway? Temporary closures aside, I understand they still operate pretty well. Cable cars are intended for steep mountain slopes and otherwise difficult terrain: that's where they belong best. I would hardly call a normally placid tidal river 'difficult terrain'!

Anyway, I wonder how much it will cost to ride on one of these things?

They've been making a mess of the Greenwich Foot tunnel - unscheduled closures, lift break downs. Currently it's shut on weekday nights, the lifts are not working and the stairs, with wooden partitions, are now too narrow for cyclists to pass groups of pedestrians or other cyclists lugging their bike the other way so you have to use the landings as passing points.

One Sunday morning a few weeks ago I set off from Deptford to Rainham, found the tunnel shut (It's Health and Safety Gone Fishing, I tells yer...), thought, no matter, I'll take the Woolwich Ferry. Got there and found that the ferry does not operate until 11am and the Woolwich Foot tunnel is closed anyway. I ended up having to cycle to Dartford and get the highways people to ferry me through the tunnel - which was fun in its own right but definitely nowhere near where I wanted to be.

Because I don't consider the Rotherhithe Tunnel cyclable (it's one of those things that most cyclists try once and then say ''never again'') there was no crossing between Tower Bridge and the Dartford Crossing. That makes the river rather difficult terrain.

Normally the ferry's great...hundreds of cars and lorries all backed up for hours and cyclists saunter up and go straight to the front of the ferry and they get to be first off on the other bank.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
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Rides Ti2
They've been making a mess of the Greenwich Foot tunnel - unscheduled closures, lift break downs. Currently it's shut on weekday nights, the lifts are not working and the stairs, with wooden partitions, are now too narrow for cyclists to pass groups of pedestrians or other cyclists lugging their bike the other way so you have to use the landings as passing points.

One Sunday morning a few weeks ago I set off from Deptford to Rainham, found the tunnel shut (It's Health and Safety Gone Fishing, I tells yer...), thought, no matter, I'll take the Woolwich Ferry. Got there and found that the ferry does not operate until 11am and the Woolwich Foot tunnel is closed anyway. I ended up having to cycle to Dartford and get the highways people to ferry me through the tunnel - which was fun in its own right but definitely nowhere near where I wanted to be.

Because I don't consider the Rotherhithe Tunnel cyclable (it's one of those things that most cyclists try once and then say ''never again'') there was no crossing between Tower Bridge and the Dartford Crossing. That makes the river rather difficult terrain.

Normally the ferry's great...hundreds of cars and lorries all backed up for hours and cyclists saunter up and go straight to the front of the ferry and they get to be first off on the other bank.

Indeed. And the Ferry workers are seem to be top chaps too...
 

Adasta

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Location
London
I don't consider the Rotherhithe Tunnel cyclable (it's one of those things that most cyclists try once and then say ''never again'') there was no crossing between Tower Bridge and the Dartford Crossing.

I got caught in the Rotherhithe Tunnel the other week (I took the wrong turning off the roundabout but thought I'd go for a saunter anyway). It was brutal. A couple of illegal overtakes and my legs were quite jelly-like after gunning it the whole length of the tunnel to match the traffic. I had a lovely sit-down afterwards to gather my thoughts and then continued on my way.

Never again!
 
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