Canti Brakes Squealing - suggestions please?

[Gunk]

Try cleaning the rims with fine wire wool and brake cleaner (not white spirit) and sand the blocks down very slightly.

 

[All uphill]

I know how frustrating squealing brakes are!

Never tried it but might different length brake blocks either side of the rim defeat the resonance that causes the squeal? I must try it.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

brake cleaner

Ah, not sure what this is?

 

[freiston]

Ah, not sure what this is?

In my house, it's washing up liquid 😉

 

[Gunk]

Ah, not sure what this is?

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/triple-qx-brake-and-clutch-cleaner-500ml-542770020

 

[Chief Broom]

I would like to sort this problem too, I recently cleaned my wheels with white sprit which seemed to stop the yowling brakes but a couple of days later its back with a vengeance. However clean they are now doesnt seem to make any difference and theyre so embarrassing to use its almost preferable to ride straight into a wall rather than apply them Is it a black art like setting up a bike and sidecar....or maybe some incantations with a dash of holy water will do the trick... I'll take them of today and giv'em a scrub...see if that works....

 

[andyoxon]

Adjusting the toe-in / resetting the angle of the pads on the rims, to give more gap at back/rear of the pad - worked for me, in stopping squeal, with Kool-stop Salmons.

park tool site video quite good (if needed)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_tDym0G6zo

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Adjusting the toe-in / resetting the angle of the pads on the rims, to give more gap at back/rear of the pad - worked for me, in stopping squeal, with Kool-stop Salmons.

park tool site video quite good (if needed)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_tDym0G6zo

Thanks Andy. That led me to the article here too

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/cantilever-threaded-post-brake-service

 

[T4tomo]

Ah, ok, that makes sense, thank you.

So...

(1) shortening the yoke reduces the spread and MA but should reduce squeal?

(2) A second question- AIUI the MA is also changed by the height of the fixing point above the pivot (in mine above it's close to, but not at the top of the slot). So if I tried shortening the yoke, I could compensate somewhat by fixing at the top of the slot?

off at a slight but related tangent, I had an issue with Canti's on the OH's CX bike causing fork judder (they still stopped it but it was a tad disconcerting), I changed the headset hanger for a fork mounted "up hanger", thus reducing the vertical cable run which eliminated it completely.

if vibration is causing squeal, that might also be an option?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

off at a slight but related tangent, I had an issue with Canti's on the OH's CX bike causing fork judder (they still stopped it but it was a tad disconcerting), I changed the headset hanger for a fork mounted "up hanger", thus reducing the vertical cable run which eliminated it completely.

if vibration is causing squeal, that might also be an option?

It's a very, very stiff tandem fork in my case, so I think it's unlikely fork judder or flex is contributing, unless I've misunderstood.

[Edit: what's an "up hanger"?]

 

[T4tomo]

It's a very, very stiff tandem fork in my case, so I think it's unlikely fork judder or flex is contributing, unless I've misunderstood.

[Edit: what's an "up hanger"?]

yes stiff tandem fork should negate that. the OH's was an Alu CX fork with a fair bit of rake on it.

one of these....

https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m7b0s101p1809/TEKTRO-Front-Uphanger-For-Cantilever-Brakes

 

[the snail]

It's a very, very stiff tandem fork in my case, so I think it's unlikely fork judder or flex is contributing, unless I've misunderstood.

[Edit: what's an "up hanger"?]

The uphanger reduces the length of inner between the hanger and the brake, which is supposed to reduce squeal, nothing to do with the fork construction.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

yes stiff tandem fork should negate that. the OH's was an Alu CX fork with a fair bit of rake on it.

one of these....
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https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m7b0s101p1809/TEKTRO-Front-Uphanger-For-Cantilever-Brakes

The front brake already has one of those.

Now I know what it is, thank you