Car slapping

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gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
I had a funny (stupid) one last week. I was heading down the road and I saw a woman about a pull out from a side road. I slowed expecting her to pull out, which she did in front of me. Because I had predicted it, I was now heading for the rear of the car and slightly into the side road. Anyway, she then took fright and stopped dead with 3/4 of the car out in the main road. She then stupidly decided to reverse quickly. I was not expecting that one and grabbed the top of her car at the back as I was now completely off balance and cleated in holding onto the roof. Thankfully, she had spotted me and stopped again while I regained my balance and rode off.
 

native son

Active Member
Location
Barnsley
Only ever done it once, on the roof of a Fiesta that turned out to be driven by somebody much younger than me. I felt bad about it for a while after that and haven't done it since though i can understand why others do it.

I would recommend an Airzound but after the reaction i got on Friday (separate thread to follow) to using it i'm not so sure now.
 
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nightoff

New Member
Location
Doncaster
You where there and I was not. But that is different from what you said earlier when you said 'on reflection' you could have braked and swerved. Difficult I know when split second decisions have to be made. Another road user (the car driver) committed a 'wrong' and you either faced a pragmatic course of action or an ego driven action.

The pragmatic decision would be to keep both hand on the handle bars, brake and move in to keep yourself away from a ton of steel capable of killing or crippling you. Get home safe and sound that evening, kiss the missis, and carry on with your life

The ego driven action would be to continue on your line, get close to a ton of steel capable of killing or crippling you, take a hand off your handlebars therefore making you slightly more unstable and show your displeasure and slap the car. Well you probably will get home safe and sound to kiss the missis (fingers crossed), and you probably will carry on with your life....hopefully.

Lets not dress up 'car slapping' as some sort of road safety device, its an ego driven means of showing dis-pleasure at another road user mis-deads. If I was faced with a situation of such danger I wouldn't be car slapping I would be car punching with all my strength and screaming at the top of my voice. You have to be honest with yourself, if you could have braked and swerved to avoid it then do it, you owe that to yourself and your family.

Will all due respect, you are full of contradictions. Read my original post and you will see I was forced to swerve to the kerb and brake. The slap was to warn him I was there.

I find it odd that after your fairly theatrical outburt regarding my ego and the ramifications of my actions regarding the possibility of being maimed or my family being bereaved, you go on to state you would be punching the car with all your strength. Surely this flies in the face of your earlier comments of hanging on the handle bars and "kissing the misses".

I really don't see what ego has to do with it. It's a split second call on what to do in that situation.

Still, it's interesting to read what other people do in these situations.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Lets not dress up 'car slapping' as some sort of road safety device, its an ego driven means of showing dis-pleasure at another road user mis-deads.
It's both. I rap on the side of cars and vans with an outward tap of my knuckles, and it almost always has precisely the desired effect.
 

jmaccyd

Well-Known Member
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When I mulled over the incident later on, I thought I could have swerved and braked without touching the car in which case the driver might never have realised his driving was dangerous.

Just working off this really and you also did say you know the driver had seen you. Look, its your neck my friend, and it is indeed a split second decision. Only one 'winner' in a collision between a car and a cyclist...and it 'aint you! Avoiding a collision is the important thing, if you feel that was the only option to avoid that then slap away but remember you are left close to the car and with a hand off the handlebars. If it is at all possible to keep both hand on the bars and stay away form the impact zone. Make a pragmatic choice that is the safest for yourself as a vunerable road user, not one driven by displeasure and ego of someone else bad decision making.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
Any form of percussive engagement with a car/van driver is likely to garner a negative response. For that reason, I avoid striking vehicles as I prefer both hands on my handlebars/brakes. That said, I can recall hitting vehicles (twice IIRC) and in both instances it was to draw attention to myself as the drivers were forcing me to the kerb at speed, in wet conditions. I can only adduce that they had not seen me, or did not give a xxxx about my safety.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
Not unless there was absolutely no other way to alert someone to my presence.

There is the possibility of loss of control by removing a hand from the bars in a potentially tricky situation and slapping someone's pride and joy is likely to make them ever so slightly irate, which I would rather not do.
 
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nightoff

New Member
Location
Doncaster
Just working off this really and you also did say you know the driver had seen you. Look, its your neck my friend, and it is indeed a split second decision. Only one 'winner' in a collision between a car and a cyclist...and it 'aint you! Avoiding a collision is the important thing, if you feel that was the only option to avoid that then slap away but remember you are left close to the car and with a hand off the handlebars. If it is at all possible to keep both hand on the bars and stay away form the impact zone. Make a pragmatic choice that is the safest for yourself as a vunerable road user, not one driven by displeasure and ego of someone else bad decision making.

You are quite right. I did say the driver had seen me. This was obvious by the way he was straddling the central line after he pulled out.
The problem was he misjudged my speed (about 20mph at the time) and must have thought he was past when in reality his passenger door was level with my handlebars as he veered towards me.

I personally consider my actions a success. I not only avoided a collision but also made the driver aware how close he came to hitting me.
In the heat of the moment it's about self preservation not ego. The ego part possibly comes later when trying to converse with the driver to explain why his actions were dangerous. He knew he'd done wrong which is why he wouldn't acknowledge me.

Over many years of cycling, I've only ever had to hit out at a vehicle 4 times. I remember each time clearly as I felt I was genuinely at risk of injury.
 

SW19cam

Über Member
Location
London
Not sure if this guy is slapping a bus or waving to the passengers
see 5:03

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]View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34GtuSB6DQM&feature=related[/media]



(not even in the same league as the "Londons Calling" Alleycat



Idiots if you ask me! ;)

But as another case study - what do you think about this:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK-6jgeWtag


Justifed in giving the car a knock?

At the time I assumed it was because the car came very close, but also the driver has (Unwittingly) caught the cyclist between the car and the motobike parked in the cycle lan...
 

chris-s

New Member
Location
Truro
Not wishing to detract from the OP's thread, I thought Mickles reply quite appropriate particularly when you notice is 'post count' at the time i read it...

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Not wishing to detract from the OP's thread, I thought Mickles reply quite appropriate particularly when you notice is 'post count' at the time i read it...

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Scary! What is even scarier is that I currently have 999 subscribers in youtube. Whoooaaaah! Don't try and tell me that isn't some supernatural connection!

The end of the world is NIGH!!!!!!:wacko::biggrin:
 
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