Car windscreen care

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Loch side.
Have heard this before, grit gets embedded in the plastic scraper; grit scratches glass.

Supposedly the scrapers with a brass blade are the solution. I had one for for a while, worked well enough.

Brass sounds like a very good solution. It is true that soft materials tend to embed with chips of harder materials and then abrade a hard substrate like glass. Just look at how bicycle brake hoses eat through the crowns of suspension forks under dusty conditions. It also happens in submersible water pumps, just two examples I can think of.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Only 30 years worth.

Yes, but we've had enough of experts ...

..... sorry, wrong thread
 

Colin_P

Guru
Yes, but we've had enough of experts ...

..... sorry, wrong thread

There are experts and there are experts.

The so called experts who comment upon social and political issues are no better than Mystic Meg from the Sun. In fact she has probably got more things right than they have of late.

Experts, real ones, like engineers do sometimes make mistakes, nobody is infallable.

Risk analysts and bookmakers, now they know their stuff...


As for windscreens, once they are badly scratched, they are badly scratched. I wasted lots of time once on one to no avail. A new screen though is like having an new car, they are lovely and keeping it that way is all about carefully cleaning the glass and replacing the wiper blades in good time and not using the wipers on a dry screen.

I went through a spate of three broken windscreens in one year which needed replacing, that insurance company didn't seem to care. With my current insurance company I had a screen replaced about three years ago and it was still noted on the last set of renewal docs a few months back. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
 

midlife

Legendary Member
Just be glad the screen doesn't have those little heating elements in it........

Shaun
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
All the fine scratches on my car screen run in the same line as the wipers, suggesting it's grit embedded in the wiper rubber.

This is why after a particularly dry spell I will lift the wipers and run my finger across the rubber to remove grit.
 

GGJ

Veteran
Location
Scotland
Made a claim for a new windscreen a few years ago, paid my excess and when my renewal came in my premium was less than the previous year
 

keithmac

Guru
We had Ford quick clear on our last but one car, missed it badly on our last car but have it back again on the new one. Worth it's weight in gold in winter..
 

Colin_P

Guru
[QUOTE 4591559, member: 45"]Bibendum is inflatable.[/QUOTE]

That's your windscreen, that is.
 

screenman

Squire
Made a claim for a new windscreen a few years ago, paid my excess and when my renewal came in my premium was less than the previous year

A few years ago is the thing there, some insurers were better than others for keeping premiums the same, but you will find very few that would now.

The BBC did a nice program a few years back. Just talking to your insurers about a incident can increase your premiums.
 

screenman

Squire
Next time we have some fine dry weather run your hand across the paintwork and feel the grit laying on it, what do you think the dirt that is on your bike after a wet ride is.

Polishing scratches that you can feel with your nail is not easy and something I do not attempt. Over the years I have done a lot of polishing I had the contract for Radio Rentals for one, that was a lot of work, I could remove a lot of glass from a tv screen and would still have a good picture, God the same on a window a the lens effect would be massive.

Out of interest what is the car we are talking about.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
On the subject of car screens, the kia has been a real pain of late,i cant get the screen to clean properly.
its as tho its had oil in the washer..
i use white vinegar Auto Glym car glass polish and its still hopeless..and a mixed concentrate halfords screen wash..that i always use
last night in the pouring rain the car was almost un drivable..in fact it was dangerouse..

ill get some new wipers tomorrow but the ones on are this years..and feel very nice and supple..
any thoughts as im almost at the change the screen time..30k miles and 2.5 yr old?
 
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Loch side.
[QUOTE 4592942, member: 9609"]if vinegar hasn't worked I have had success with petrol, keep it away from the wiper blades though as it will perish them. I would also test on a small unimportant area first in case modern windscreens are made out of something other than glass, also check with the car manafacturer, and obviously take some safety advice from you local fire station.[/QUOTE]

I stand to be corrected but I doubt there are any plastic windscreens out there. Am I wrong?
Anyway, petrol is on the right track, but you would need pure petrol without additives. This is sold in the UK as panel wipe or on some occasions, benzine. (not real benzene, with two Es, which is C6H6). The additives in petrol could just further contaminate the screen.

I agree with your advice to keep it away from the wiper blades but I lament the dire warnings. Surely plain old common sense should substitute for a letter from the car manufacturer and a consultation with the fire brigade.

Anyway. @meta lon , grease on a windscreen is a problem and whilst I cannot give you the definitive answer, Reiver's advice is on the right track. You need a solvent of sorts. If you have already tried the soapy steel wool option (get pre-soaped pads from Tesco in the cleaning stuff aisle) and still have a problem, it is time for solvents. We just don't know what the contaminant is, so you may have to try different solvents. Obviously you don't want to buy ten different products.

Start with panel wipe. See if you can get a small quantity from a panel beater in your area. I find that if you go prepared with a small container, you can always get small quantities from people. I would also try methylated spirit. Panel wipe is better than petrol because it is pure and evaporates without leaving stuff behind. Petrol leaves stuff behind. Enough so that it cannot be used as a cleaner before painting.

One problematic contaminant is silicone, typically found in ZX-27 - type (make up your own codes and formulas to suit your particular brand) spray oils. Secondly, it is found in dash restorer sprays. The latter usually messes up the interior of the windscreen and that's a bitch to get to.

The trick is to wipe and wipe and wipe, with a clean cloth each time. No use polishing with the same cloth, that'll just spread the grease.

The reason oil, grease and silicone is so difficult to remove from a windscreen is in itself interesting. What you have there is a boundary layer of the stuff. A boundary layer is only a couple of molecules thick and doesn't act like bulk material. It doesn't flow and clings like hell. Water on a windscreen also forms a boundary layer - you can see it when you swipe a windscreen with a squeezee. However, that layer quickly evaporates, leaving the screen clear. Silicone doesn't evaporate and the layer remains. You have to dissolve it with a solvent and then wipe away the solution.This has to be repeated. Then, you have to decontaminate your wipers as well, or probably just replace them.

Good luck.
 
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