Census question... /uni work help :)

[thomas]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/33UG.asp

I've got a question about the two student figures on the page, featured under 'Work'. The total figure for students in Norwich is a bit over 10,000. Now I know the figures are 9 years old, but the UNI currently has around 15,000 students and the Art's College university has around 1500.

I'm going to use the information for some UNI work and I'd like a rough idea of how many sixth form/college students there are in Norwich.

Am I right in thinking that the census data may be more likely to show the amount of sixth form students and local UNI/art colleges students?

Anyone got any sensible ideas for how I could find out how many sixth form/college students there are in Norwich. The actual figure isn't that important as long as where I've got it from is sensible. It's just for a small part of the work.


And for anyone who is interested, the work I'm doing is a marketing plan for a new student nightclub, so I need to see how big the market size is for that (Obviously, going out last week counted as research )

 

[marinyork]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/33UG.asp

I've got a question about the two student figures on the page, featured under 'Work'. The total figure for students in Norwich is a bit over 10,000. Now I know the figures are 9 years old, but the UNI currently has around 15,000 students and the Art's College university has around 1500.

I'm going to use the information for some UNI work and I'd like a rough idea of how many sixth form/college students there are in Norwich.

Am I right in thinking that the census data may be more likely to show the amount of sixth form students and local UNI/art colleges students?

Anyone got any sensible ideas for how I could find out how many sixth form/college students there are in Norwich. The actual figure isn't that important as long as where I've got it from is sensible. It's just for a small part of the work.


And for anyone who is interested, the work I'm doing is a marketing plan for a new student nightclub, so I need to see how big the market size is for that (Obviously, going out last week counted as research )

Alternatively work out the number of sixth forms in Norwich (not hard). The find out numbers at college, you could even ring up some of them and ask for the colleges which are harder to work out the numbers for. Compare to other data. Another way would be to get the rough number of 16-18 year olds or any bracket, weight it and then times multiply it by whatever.

 

[summerdays]

No idea about helping you but I would have thought that the census figures would be out of date. My impression from the news is that more are staying on at college and going onto university than say 10 years ago.

 

[wafflycat]

Anyone got any sensible ideas for how I could find out how many sixth form/college students there are in Norwich. The actual figure isn't that important as long as where I've got it from is sensible. It's just for a small part of the work.

You could try asking the county council.

http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/consumption/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=3038#ContentStart

If they won't tell you directly, have a look at the same web site, but for details of each individual sixth form college/school with sixth forms.

 

[thomas]

Alternatively work out the number of sixth forms in Norwich (not hard). The find out numbers at college, you could even ring up some of them and ask for the colleges which are harder to work out the numbers for. Compare to other data. Another way would be to get the rough number of 16-18 year olds or any bracket, weight it and then times multiply it by whatever.

I had thought that, but I'm not from Norwich so don't really have an idea of how many local sixth forms there are which are really relevant (lazy excuse). I might just take a figure from the city college, which I guess is the main one, and have a look at some of the smaller ones.


urghhh! No one answered the phone. Left a message though.

No idea about helping you but I would have thought that the census figures would be out of date. My impression from the news is that more are staying on at college and going onto university than say 10 years ago.

Yeah, I'm sure they are . Just need an estimate really.

 

[thomas]

You could try asking the county council.

http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/consumption/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=3038#ContentStart

If they won't tell you directly, have a look at the same web site, but for details of each individual sixth form college/school with sixth forms.

oh thanks! That's a really good idea actually.

I'll shoot them an email, they were pretty fast when I needed to know about bin collections last time

 

[wafflycat]

Most welcome.

 

[Will1985]

but the UNI currently has around 15,000 students

To me, UNI was/is a radical French student organisation born out of '68. They have way more members than that.
The abbreviation uni makes sense to me

On topic, the list is: Norwich School, Norwich High, Notre Dame, City College, CNS, Hewett, Easton College.
I'll tell you for free that Norwich School has approximately 130 students in each 6th form year.
Consider however that the catchment area for these places is county-wide.

 

[Tollers]

Hold on....are these drinking age? LOL

Anyway, you have two approaches to estimating:

Top down: Total population of norwich - estimate population in age range you want , work out %age (census helps), assume %age are students
Bottom up: Count current schools, estimate kids per school

Take the average of the two and you have a reasonable estimate

Get ready for questions like this in job interviews. I love asking stuff like this.

p.s you can then add on all sorts of other assumptions to refine