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Christmas football etc 1914

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Bigtallfatbloke, 23 Dec 2007.

  1. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    great film on telly today...all about the 1914 football truce etc.

    Shame we can't learn from it.
     
  2. Abitrary

    Abitrary New Member

    BTFB, are you very intelligent or very silly?
     
  3. OP
    OP
    Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    Dunno I haven't figured that out yet. I did go to where it was supposed to have happened though.
     
  4. Abitrary

    Abitrary New Member

    On the western front?
     
  5. DustBowlRefugee

    DustBowlRefugee Über Member

    Location:
    Sussex, England
    What time's it on, or have I missed it already?
     
  6. Brock

    Brock Senior Member

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    Kent
    The important thing is who won. Does history tell us that?
     
  7. John the Monkey

    John the Monkey Frivolous Cyclist

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    BTFB, I think there's a decent history of the truce itself published by Pan - called the Christmas Truce, or similar. I got my copy on their budget military history imprint, and it pops up fairly frequently in publishers' outlets like "The Works", worth watching out for.

    Also of interest might be Tony Ashworth's "Trench Warfare 1914-18 - The Live and Let Live System". Ashworth's theory is that warring sides developed a system allowing both to maintain the appearance of aggression, whilst keeping actual violence at a fairly low level along certain sectors of the front. I think he talks about the Christmas Truce in the book too. A little bit on Wikipedia mentions this book.
     
  8. Twenty Inch

    Twenty Inch New Member

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    Behind a desk
    I'll look this book up It's long been a worry to military planners that people don't actually like killing each other. There was a famous example during the American Civil War when a musket was found with eighteen balls in the barrel - the soldier had pretended to fire each time.

    It's a particular issue now as all military training is about dehumanising the enemy, but when troops are in peacekeeping duties, a different approach is needed.
     
  9. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    The book I read on the Christmas Truce was enlightening....

    Both sides were really afraid that this was going to personalise the enemy, and there is evidence that for some time afterwards the troops were shooting and deliberately missing the enemy.
     
  10. DustBowlRefugee

    DustBowlRefugee Über Member

    Location:
    Sussex, England
  11. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Staff Member

    if it went to penalties, my money is on fritz :becool: