Christmas Number One campaign

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JiMBR

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Downward

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Is this Rage Against the Machine ?

I hear Mr cowell has bought the publishing rights to this and rumour is he is very much part of said campaign
 
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Rhythm Thief

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Downward said:
Is this Rage Against the Machine ?

I hear Mr cowell has bought the publishing rights to this and rumour is he is very much part of said campaign

Oh no ... please tell me that's not true :evil:. I know he owns the publishing rights to Jeff Buckley's version of "Hallelujah", which anyone who doesn't keep their head in a bucket will know was number 2 last year after a campaign to get it to number one ahead of the godawful Cowell - sponsored nightmare by whatever her bloody name was.
 
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Bollocks ... it seems that you're quite right. Is there no escape from this awful man?

Now, a RATM track might seem like a good choice for any attempt to stick it to the man, and many of the band's fans will happily remember when, on its original release, Radio 1's Bruno Brookes accidentally played the uncensored version of the song - with its famous "**** you, I won't do what you tell me" line - leading to 138 odd complaints.

However, would getting RATM to the Christmas number one spot really be sticking it to the man? Call me cynical, but a similar campaign last year aimed to get Jeff Buckley's certainly iconic version of 'Hallelujah' to the Christmas number one spot, above 'X-Factor' winner Alexandra Burke's rather schmaltzy cover of the Leonard Cohen classic.

But Burke's cover was released by Cowell's label SyCo, a joint venture with Sony Music. Buckley's version was released by Columbia, a division of Sony Music. The publishing rights in the Cohen song were owed by, erm, Sony/ATV, the music publishing company half owned by Sony Music.

And what about RATM's 'Killing In The Name'? Well, that was released by Epic Records. A division of Sony Music. The song is published by, yes, that's right, Sony/ATV, the JV pubbery owned by Sony and the estate of Michael Jackson.

In a cleverer/more sinister (take your pick) record industry this would all have been orchestrated by Sony's marketing department. Though as far as we can see the people behind the Facebook group have no affiliations with Sony, and, indeed, specifically deny any association with the label and the band.

From livemusic.fm
 

snakehips

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Why would it be so bad to have Susan Boyle at number 1 for Christmas ?




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Rhythm Thief

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snakehips said:
Why would it be so bad to have Susan Boyle at number 1 for Christmas ?

Because her recordings are tedious sub - karaoke mish mashes of every lazy vocal cliche that there is. There's no creative force behind them, she just happens to be able to sing other people's songs. It's because of her and her ilk that there's a generation of people who believe that this is music.
It won't bother me much since I'm unlikely to hear it unless by some sort of terrible miscalculation I find myself in range of some speakers she happens to be coming out of. Then how much I hear depends on how quickly I can cut my own ears off.

Other than that, it'd be fine.:evil:
 

galaxy1

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Rhythm Thief said:
Because her recordings are tedious sub - karaoke mish mashes of every lazy vocal cliche that there is. There's no creative force behind them, she just happens to be able to sing other people's songs. It's because of her and her ilk that there's a generation of people who believe that this is music.
It won't bother me much since I'm unlikely to hear it unless by some sort of terrible miscalculation I find myself in range of some speakers she happens to be coming out of. Then how much I hear depends on how quickly I can cut my own ears off.

Other than that, it'd be fine.:evil:


+1

Abso-bloody -lutely

Theres a guy at work who thinks X-factor is the be all and end all of music . He seriously thinks that getting on that show is the only way to make it big in music,and that to him is the important thing.Being famous.Not the love of the music and of writing and playing with others.It's a means to an end where the end is to be famous.
To me they're not artists.They're performers performing other peoples songs.
 

Downward

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galaxy1 said:
+1

Abso-bloody -lutely

Theres a guy at work who thinks X-factor is the be all and end all of music . He seriously thinks that getting on that show is the only way to make it big in music,and that to him is the important thing.Being famous.Not the love of the music and of writing and playing with others.It's a means to an end where the end is to be famous.
To me they're not artists.They're performers performing other peoples songs.

Can only recall Girls aloud and maybe Will Young really "making it" from the X factor.

What gets me is where does all this hidden talent come from ?

Surely year on year they must get the same old people auditioning unless there are 100000 people in the country who can actually sing
 

Fnaar

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Whatever happened to slumming it in a transit van up and down the motorway and making it big by paying your dues playing to one man, a dog and a punk off his tits on acid? ;) That's where good music comes from, basically. Educate your children, oh parent, for the future of music as we know it depends on it. And I'm serious! :cry:
 

galaxy1

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If I ever get round to having kids then it will be important to me to instill my love of music in them. From all the different genres and, if they're interested I see about teaching them guitar.
I really hate how this reality tv culture has gotten it's slimey tentacles on "music" .It's not even about the music anymore. It's about image and hotpants .All the songs are overpruduced and all the singers sound the same. Nobody seems interested in learning an instrument to a high standard. It's hardly a new thing but irritates me none the less
 
I hate the MNE but they made a good point on this campaign. RATM sand F**K you, I won't do what you tell me. Now I'm being told to buy that song :rolleyes:

I'd even buy Cliff to stop the X factor lot. Why not get Cliff to cover RATM :biggrin:

galaxy1 said:
If I ever get round to having kids then it will be important to me to instill my love of music in them. From all the different genres and, if they're interested I see about teaching them guitar.
I really hate how this reality tv culture has gotten it's slimey tentacles on "music" .It's not even about the music anymore. It's about image and hotpants .All the songs are overpruduced and all the singers sound the same. Nobody seems interested in learning an instrument to a high standard. It's hardly a new thing but irritates me none the less

My Kids don't watch X-factor. They do know RATM. We had a Leftfield session the other day which they enjoyed. Sadly they also like Girls Aloud, but I won't tell them what to like, I just try and steer them to listen to different things and let them make their own minds up.
 
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