Collision this morning...

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Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Well as he had the beleif that if you overtake a cyclist, cut in on them, and indicate, then you are in the right. He thought that just because he was indicating, I should have slowed down.

That's an interesting turn of phrase.

He was simply a nincompoop, and I was trying to understand why he chose to overtake me when he was just about to turn. The fact that he "lived on the caravan site" was just random and not related to anything. A junction is a junction and you do not overtake and then immediately turn in on anyone.

You're right of course, he was and I'm sure is a nincompoop.
I'm aware that with the amount of times I seem to reply to your threads and posts you may end up viewing me as apollo views Cubist, but I truly believe that you may one day have the opportunity to post a video of a colonoscopy performed with your own camera, I'll leave it to your imagination into who's bottom it's been inserted :whistle:
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
I truly believe that you may one day have the opportunity to post a video of a colonoscopy performed with your own camera, I'll leave it to your imagination into who's bottom it's been inserted :whistle:


Oh FFS. :rolleyes:
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.

I'm not sure if you think I'm moaning about cyclists with cameras or just exasperated with me.
If it's the former I can assure you it's not the case, I have watched many of the videos posted here and on youtube by plenty of different people and am frequently left frustrated at the attitude of other road users. The problem with matthews videos is that I find I am frequently left frustrated by the cyclist.
If it's the latter, well, I don't know what to say I'm sorry.

he then drove off, saying that he was going home on the caravan camp (not sure how that was relevant).

Not sure what type of caravan park it is but some people that live on some caravan parks don't take too kindly to being threatened with the police, or being told they're being filmed for that matter.

He did have a small child in the passenger seat (could be a contributing factor to neglect or safety?).

What does this mean? When I first read it it suggested to me that you were hinting at the neglect or safety of the small child, I wonder how the driver would view it?
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
What does this mean? When I first read it it suggested to me that you were hinting at the neglect or safety of the small child, I wonder how the driver would view it?


Well what I meant was that the fact that he had a child on the front seat, possibly not secured properly (i didnt have a good look so cant comment), or the fact that he performed the manouvre with me colliding with the child's side of the car. Putting the child in more danger (if I had been a car) of getting seriously injured or killed.
 

Dan_h

Well-Known Member
Location
Reading, UK
Well what I meant was that the fact that he had a child on the front seat, possibly not secured properly (i didnt have a good look so cant comment), or the fact that he performed the manouvre with me colliding with the child's side of the car. Putting the child in more danger (if I had been a car) of getting seriously injured or killed.

I have just had a look at this video and here is how it looks to me. The car passes you, a little closely but not terrible. You start calling out it's number plate. In doing this you are not paying enough attention to what the car may do. By the time you are half way through calling out the number plate you realise he is braking and turning. At this point you hit the brakes but too late and run into the side of the turning car.

I agree completely that the driver should not have made that pass and had no need to being just seconds from his turning. However he did and at that point, whether he is right or wrong, the ONLY thing you should by trying to do is avoid a collision. Calling out his number plate is distracting you from taking the action that you need to take. So what if you don't get his number? So what if you don't get to point out what he did wrong? Don't worry about any of that, just focus and try your very best to miss the car!
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
I think what I should have done is move into primary once he had overtaken me. That way I would have had time to avoid him if he broke suddenly and be able to have the assurance that the camera got the numberplate and not me.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Oh for crying out loud, Matthew you appear determined to be the poster boy for the cyclists war against motorists.
I'm going to be controversial here, I think you could have stopped, I think you had plenty of time to brake but decided to do a controlled side swipe into the car. I'll bet anything if you hadn't had a camera on you wouldn't have hit him. Then we get, yet again, you're on camera and I'm going to report you to the police.
I'm sure we'll get the usual defence that you're not very old, well you're 18 very very soon, so maybe you're old enough to stop acting like a child.


Idiotic post.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Well what I meant was that the fact that he had a child on the front seat, possibly not secured properly (i didnt have a good look so cant comment), or the fact that he performed the manouvre with me colliding with the child's side of the car. Putting the child in more danger (if I had been a car) of getting seriously injured or killed.


Matt T your video footage clearly shows the driver driving without due care and attention imho putting you in danger by turning across your path. You have two options 1)pursue it ie report it to plod and provide your video footage which is good. Do not mention anything about doubts with your bicycle's brakes as the car driver still turned across your path 2)draw a line under it and move on.

HTH safe cycling.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
One way to reduce the danger of left hooks is to look for any cars about to overtake or are already overtaking as you approach a left turn. Usually they have started indicating left whilst still behind, of course sometimes they do not bother to indicate.
I had one this morning, speeding past with the indicator on, the only option is to slow down and let the knobber do their dirty business and use a hand gesture to tell them how many brain cells I think they have :tongue:.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
I think what I should have done is move into primary once he had overtaken me. That way I would have had time to avoid him if he broke suddenly and be able to have the assurance that the camera got the numberplate and not me.

This is something i often do with a left indicating car as it has overtaken me, much better to avoid any kind of incident than be in one.
 
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