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Bollo

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
BentMikey said:
Hey Bollo, where's the video btw?

No video - the battery had packed up that morning.:smile: Even if I'd been live, I'd not be putting it because Fedex don't deserve the bad publicity (nobody reads the extenuating blurb on youtube B)), it's still an open case as far as plod are concerned and it occurred far too close to work to advertise. Also, like I've said before, once the initial novelty of the cam wore off I've kept most of my very limited collection of incidents private. There'd be nothing gained by making it public and I'd attract all the usual 'Kill al sicleist fukkers' nutters.

Crank - Therein lies the problem about taking a different route. Short of getting a chinook from Odiham to drop me in, there's not a lot I can do.

O - you're right about the instant dismissal part. My initial contact with Fedex was through the customer service and I was passed through to the supervisor asap once I'd explained the goings on. She managed to get in touch with the relevant depot manager who, according to her, went skywards after she'd got the word 'mobile' out. He contacted me straight afterwards and explained that their policy on mobile use is pretty much one strike. It's in the driver's contracts explicitly and they have weekly reminders about the consequences. This driver's subsequent behaviour, the bit that really had me worried, was just flogging an already glue-factory bound horse.

I heard about the driver's sacking from the police, not Fedex directly, so I'm assuming its really happened and isn't just a fob off.

As I expected, I didn't get a huge amount of sleep last night as the whole thing kept replaying itself in my head. Any provocation on my part was minimal given the incident - honestly the only thing I'd done at the time was shout a warning -no swearing - and banged the side of the van, more a push thinking about it. It was all about self preservation. I think he realised I might get on the phone to Fedex and what that would mean, so decided to go for broke and try and scare me off. Not the best judged decision as I'd have moaned like a bastard about the original incident but probably not have bothered with a call if it'd ended there.

About 9 months ago I had a row with another courier and I behaved like an arse. I certainly said enough to muddy the legal waters if it'd ended in fisticuffs. After that, I promised I'd never get into that situation again. My only mistake this time was stopping when he got out of the van - bizarrely I think I was expecting him to put his hands up to the incident because it was so blatant. At least this time I'd learned my lesson and kept my trap shut and my eyes open, even when I thought "he's going headbutt me". Luckily at that point a car drove past and I think he realised witnesses wouldn't be a good idea and snapped out of it.

Not a happy tale and, along with the deliberate dooring attempt of a few weeks ago, its brought to an end an otherwise happy and incident-free few months of commuting.

Thanks again for all the support.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
You seem quite stoic about it. I'm sure you'll never see the guy again. Thanks for posting it up as not only is it 'therapy' for you, so to speak, helping you to deal with it, it's also a very good example to others, the experienced amongst us, as well as the newbies, of how to conduct oneself during incidents such as these and then what to do afterwards.

Still it sounds like the witlesses, simply by being there, saved you from a head butting. I wouldn't let anyone get that close to me who didn't have my approval or amourous intentions :biggrin:. (Sorry to be flippant). Not to say that you did on purpose of course, as I'm sure he kicked off at you pretty quickly. I would though have been off my bike pretty quick, with it up on it's back wheel, so it was between me and him. The front wheel at chest height can be very effective at keeping people at bay. Just make sure they don't grab it and trying to wrench the bike from you or in trying buckle your wheel and also risk bending the forks. Anyway that's maybe for another time and debate.

Glad you're ok. Enjoy your riding Bollo.
 
It's amazing how stupid these people are to beusing ther mobiles while driving a marked van and some even have a phone number on.

I had that on London Bridge this week.

Shame plod don't usually bother doing anything about it.
 

PBancroft

Senior Member
Location
Winchester
Bollo said:
Thanks all. It's shaken me up a bit.

From the one time I have met you, this speaks volumes. I gather it takes a fair bit to shake you up. Fingers crossed he won't decide to turn up on your commute - if he has an ounce of intelligence he would realise how self destructive that would be... but then one would have thought the same about the first incident too. :ohmy:
 

upsidedown

Waiting for the great leap forward
Location
The middle bit
Reassuring to know that a firm with a presence the size of FedEx take it so seriously, wish others did too.

Well done Bollo on keeping your cool.
 
Bollo,

I missed this until now.

Sorry to hear about what happened, but really glad to hear about the outcome. In no way, were you to blame for this guy loosing his job. His fault, no question. the guy should not be allowed to drive with that sort of attitude, never mind work for a courier, and thus be driving about all day.

I've had my share of threats, online and in real life, and when it happens, I remember what a policeman once told me.... 'yer no Martin Luther King'.

Personally I wouldn't change what you do, certainly not for scum like him. All these cyclists look the same....;)
 

Alan Whicker

Senior Member
It's amazing how stupid these people are to beusing ther mobiles while driving a marked van and some even have a phone number on.
If I can remember the number, I usually ring the company when I get to work and ask them what their policy is about staff using their mobiles when driving. They've always sounded like they'd take it seriously. The problem is remembering the phone number and the reg number, which the company contacts almost always ask for. My tiny brain can't cope with both.

I rang a coach company after one of their drivers almost had me into the railings outside Whitechapel Hospital. He was blithely chatting and weaving around in both lanes. The bloke on the coach co. told me if that he'd (somehow) run a few checks and if the driver was indeed using the phone, they'd bin him - no question. Didn't hear anything back, but If he was sacked, tough tamales. I'm losing no sleep. He shouldn't be on the road, and nor should Bollo's courier.

My beloved 1967 Vespa Sprint was crushed by a bus (and me with it, nearly) about 8 years ago - the driver was on his mobile, though I couldn't prove it. I've been zero tolerance ever since.
 
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Bollo

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
Location
Winch
magnatom said:
.....I remember what a policeman once told me.... 'yer no Martin Luther King'.
I'm certainly no Marlon King either:biggrin: I was about 11 the last time I hit anyone.

magnatom said:
Personally I wouldn't change what you do, certainly not for scum like him. All these cyclists look the same....:biggrin:

I took a bit of a detour yesterday that dodged around the immediate location, but I'm back to the normal route today, although the false moustache keeps getting stuck in the spokes.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Bollo said:
I took a bit of a detour yesterday that dodged around the immediate location, but I'm back to the normal route today, although the false moustache keeps getting stuck in the spokes.

In the spokes?? Are you sure you're wearing it in the right place?:biggrin:
 

HobbesChoice

New Member
Location
Essex
Bollo said:
I took a bit of a detour yesterday that dodged around the immediate location, but I'm back to the normal route today, although the false moustache keeps getting stuck in the spokes.

Hi Bollo, I'm sorry to hear you had to endure that on your ride! I'm glad the outcome was in your favour, but I wouldn't worry too much about any repercussions. I was seriously attacked a year or so ago and due to the adrenaline pumping around my system, despite my attacker being so close to me, I couldn't be 100% sure about identifying him again. I spent so long looking at various people thinking "you look a bit like him, but not quite" that after a while the faces merged together. So, as he was unrealistically angry when he confronted you, my guess is that after seeing a few cyclists who have the slightest resemblance to you then he won't be confident enough when he sees you that you're the person he spoke to.

The only thing that could make him sure it's you is how you react so if you do see him, act innocent. I also agree with wearing a different colour jacket if you can or something visually different. It'll throw him off completely.

But if your false moustache is getting caught in the spokes then raise your head a little! :biggrin:
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Bollo - well done. This kind of thing is very much easier to deal with in a big city, where there's far less chance of afters. Go careful.

For what it's worth my line these days is to ask if the driver can be talked to and persuaded to change his (that's a given) ways. There's always the hope that some good will come of it.
 
Kaipaith said:
From the one time I have met you, this speaks volumes. I gather it takes a fair bit to shake you up. Fingers crossed he won't decide to turn up on your commute - if he has an ounce of intelligence he would realise how self destructive that would be... but then one would have thought the same about the first incident too. :blush:

You are a cheerful bugger.:biggrin:
 
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