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atomboy

Active Member
Location
Szeged
D'oh, bad news. Get well soon.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
I think passing traffic using a bus lane is far safer that up the outside, it's a full lane and it gives you angles and space to see and avoid, yes people tyurning right into it is a risk you can do little about but you;re just as vulnerable to people pulling out from the left when riding up the outside, and thiose driver mosr def will be looking the wrong way as they pull out
 

400bhp

Guru
Question:

If you end up calling an ambulance as a result of an accident, is it obligatory for the Police to follow it up regardless of whether they were called at the scene?

In essence, is it obligatory for the hospital/paramedics to get the police involved?

Hope you get the bike sorted and make sure you go through the bloke's insurance.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
I think passing traffic using a bus lane is far safer that up the outside, it's a full lane and it gives you angles and space to see and avoid, yes people tyurning right into it is a risk you can do little about but you;re just as vulnerable to people pulling out from the left when riding up the outside, and thiose driver mosr def will be looking the wrong way as they pull out

+1


And another +1 for going the official route with insurance. Otherwise it'll be like nothing happened, and he will suffer the least. Dented top tube means a new bike, IMO.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
If you call an ambulance because of an RTA then the police will attend.

RTC please - they are not accidents.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
Firstly, I hope Laertes recovers well and goes down the official route.

Hooks in bus lanes are a real problem for cyclists and ptws – a recent campaign in London has highlighted the problem (and stressed that drivers should look out for bikers when crossing bus lanes), but the hazard is not going to go away.

"Barreling" along in a bus lanes is obviously a bad idea (as it means both moving quickly and inattentively), however, you can still move at a fair lick if you are vigilant around junctions and are prepared to cede priority a few times on your commute. By my own admission though, I often move too quickly in bus lanes as it’s easy to do
(but I am still overtaken by approx 80% of ptws moving at 30mph+ and I try to use these louder, faster ptws as outriders).

As a cyclist - identify problem junctions; watch for gaps in traffic; vehicles turning into and out of junctions in the distance; wheel angles; if you’re lucky: indicators; cover your brakes; shoulder check; ease off; adjust your line and try to get eye contact on the approach to junctions. All of these tactics mitigate the likelihood of a problem, but as I pass hundreds of side roads on my commute (and even if I’m doing some or all of the above), there is still a chance that I could come a cropper if the traffic conditions are against me, or I have a lapse in concentration.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGPIPygh1qk
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Firstly, I hope Laertes recovers well and goes down the official route.
As a cyclist, identify problem junctions, watch for gaps in traffic; vehicles turning into junctions in the distance; wheel angles; if you’re lucky, indicators; cover your brakes; shoulder check; ease off; adjust your line and try to get eye contact on the approach to junctions. All of these tactics mitigate the likelihood of a problem, but as I pass hundreds of side roads on my commute (and even if I’m doing all of the above), there is still a chance that I could come a cropper if the traffic conditions are against me, or I have lapse of concentration.


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The link didn't work, I was looking thorugh your Vid on you tube on Saturday, I think the instruction ones were great and made for very positive, defensive riding. Made a pleasant change to piles of ranting ones.

To OP I would definitely get a check up and go the proper ins route.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
The link didn't work, I was looking thorugh your Vid on you tube on Saturday, I think the instruction ones were great and made for very positive, defensive riding. Made a pleasant change to piles of ranting ones.

To OP I would definitely get a check up and go the proper ins route.

Thank you - link amended.
 

Chilternrides

New Member
If you call an ambulance because of an RTA then the police will attend.

Not necessarily so:

Maybe they should attend, but this didn't happen when I was in a heavy collision with a pedestrian who ran out into the road (both of us ended up on the deck, him with a sore head and me with the usual bruised hip & scabby knee).

I called the ambulance because I was worried about the guy's constant complaints about being dizzy, headache and so on - no police attendance was forthcoming and when I asked the ambulance crew if the police should be involved, "Only if you want them to be." was the reply.

The pedestrian for whatever reason was very keen for them not to be involved (he may have had "reasons" for not wanting the police anywhere near him, who knows?).

Whether this was a failing on the part of the amb. crew or whether I should have insisted on police presence is another matter.

For my money, they really should have been involved as we were both hurt (me patched up and sent on my way, the pedestrian taken to hospital for a short observation period).
 
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laertes

Senior Member
Thanks for all the advice and tips. I contacted the lawyers linked earlier, and they are going to get back to me soon. Will also hand in a police report tomorrow. Injuries are healing up quickly fortunately, thanks for the good wishes.

"Barrelling" for me is no more than 20mph, but I will definitely be watching out at junctions more carefully in the future, as well as getting back on the back roads asap.
 

JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
Firstly, I hope Laertes recovers well and goes down the official route.

Hooks in bus lanes are a real problem for cyclists and ptws – a recent campaign in London has highlighted the problem (and stressed that drivers should look out for bikers when crossing bus lanes), but the hazard is not going to go away.

"Barreling" along in a bus lanes is obviously a bad idea (as it means both moving quickly and inattentively), however, you can still move at a fair lick if you are vigilant around junctions and are prepared to cede priority a few times on your commute. By my own admission though, I often move too quickly in bus lanes as it’s easy to do
(but I am still overtaken by approx 80% of ptws moving at 30mph+ and I try to use these louder, faster ptws as outriders).

As a cyclist - identify problem junctions; watch for gaps in traffic; vehicles turning into and out of junctions in the distance; wheel angles; if you’re lucky: indicators; cover your brakes; shoulder check; ease off; adjust your line and try to get eye contact on the approach to junctions. All of these tactics mitigate the likelihood of a problem, but as I pass hundreds of side roads on my commute (and even if I’m doing some or all of the above), there is still a chance that I could come a cropper if the traffic conditions are against me, or I have a lapse in concentration.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EGPIPygh1qk


But I sort of take issue with the idea of "defensive" riding. I tend to think of myself as an "assertive" (not "aggressive") rider.
The ultimate in "defensive" riding would be to get off and walk, or leave the bike at home.
By being an "assertive" cycling, I take my rightful place on the road.

Good vids, though, and the messages they put across, if adopted by others, would reduce the number of unfortunate encounters we cyclists have to endure.
 
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