Cricket thread

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Interesting that we have decided not to send most of the batting line up for the pink ball warm up match (which will be much to the annoyance of the pundits). As I said up thread, Stokes and co do it their way. I guess whether or not we agree is immaterial as they are going to stick to their method regardless!

I am going to stick my neck out on the line here. One thing about Stokes is that he is an unbelievable competitor and he doesn't seem to dwell or be affected by bad performances/results. I am not saying we will win the Ashes but I am going to make a bold prediction that it will end up being a far closer series than the first Test would suggest.

 

[matticus]

In the Ashes so far

RPO 4.98
Avg Score 168
Win rate 0%

That seems an odd stat to quote: Stokes/Mccullum* have played 6 Ashes matches, W2 L3 I believe.

Now, if you want to attain any kind of perspective (and I appreciate lots of England "fans" want no such thing, they just want something to moan about) you might care to look at the Ashes series in Australia before that. For me, this is quite persuasive:
5-0
4-0
4-0

Do you want to go back to 4-0 defeats at 3runs-per-over? You're welcome to it!

*I can never spell his name right!

 

[Dogtrousers]

you might care to look at the Ashes series in Australia before that.

No, I wouldn't care to do that, it would be far too much effort. The stats above took me less than a minute from ESPN. And anyway we all know how rubbish England tend to be down under.

But fear not, I will continue to update them as the series unfolds.

I am actually a fan of Bazball, I went to the Oval this summer to see England - India (first time I've been to a test for ages, my main cricket watching years were the 90s) and it was tremendous stuff. But I'm also a miserable pessimist realist and I fear another disaster for England may be about to unfold, albeit one with a higher run rate.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

But I'm also a miserable pessimist realist and I fear another disaster for England may be about to unfold, albeit one with a higher run rate.

Keep the faith! Stokes tends to come good. I think there is a lot more to come in this series.

 

[Alex321]

No, I wouldn't care to do that, it would be far too much effort. The stats above took me less than a minute from ESPN. And anyway we all know how rubbish England tend to be down under.

Well don't just (wrongly) say "The Ashes so far" then. Say "this Ashes series so far".

 

[Animo]

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What period does "pre-Bazball" cover?

 

[Dogtrousers]

Well don't just (wrongly) say "The Ashes so far" then. Say "this Ashes series so far".

You knew exactly what I meant. But I've edited it for you anyway, because I'm so nice.

 

[matticus]

What period does "pre-Bazball" cover?

Views differ, but it's generally agreed to be about 4 billion years.

 

[matticus]

Interesting that we have decided not to send most of the batting line up for the pink ball warm up match (which will be much to the annoyance of the pundits). As I said up thread, Stokes and co do it their way. I guess whether or not we agree is immaterial as they are going to stick to their method regardless!

I do think this is pretty dumb - given they have 11(eleven) days off!

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I do think this is pretty dumb - given they have 11(eleven) days off!

Yep, not really sure of the reasoning with this one. It has it bit of an air of "we're not doing it to annoy the ex players". Hopefully I am wrong and they do have a good reason for sticking to the nets rather than just being stubborn. Does seem like a missed opportunity though.

 

[tom73]

Yep, not really sure of the reasoning with this one. It has it bit of an air of "we're not doing it to annoy the ex players". Hopefully I am wrong and they do have a good reason for sticking to the nets rather than just being stubborn. Does seem like a missed opportunity though.

It's a total home goal and complete madness. What I don't get is what they see as "old school" looks to be the idea that professional cricket players ,actually play cricket. Believing in the way we do things is one thing. But what I see is an ever increasing bunch of players who know they are made for life and act like a bunch of spoilt brats.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Stokes got very ratty in when interviewed on the point of not doing warm ups, and ended up sounding rather petulant. But I suppose you're likely to be in a bit of a bad mood after a result like that.

 

[matticus]

But what I see is an ever increasing bunch of players who know they are made for life and act like a bunch of spoilt brats.

I think you may have confused them with soccer players. Have you looked at the relative salaries?

 

[tom73]

I think you may have confused them with soccer players. Have you looked at the relative salaries?

Come off it they are made for life at this level what with sponsorships, book deal and the rest. I mean with central contracts they even get paid for not playing. The average county player is not in the same league as football that is very true. Many less known players do still find it hard once playing days are gone. But test sides are not in the same league.

 

[Dogtrousers]

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I've been thinking... How is average score calculated? Is it just total runs divided by innings? Because if it is then it will be depressed by innings that successfully chased a small target. Say you're chasing 10 to win and get it without loss, that would have the same statistical impact as 10 all out. But if you were to exclude them then you'd be missing out on heroic chases of high targets.

I suppose that just for comparison purposes these things could be considered to affect both sides equally, which would make the sums easier.

Or maybe you could take total runs divided by total wickets and multiply by 10. Or should that be 11?