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You can still sit backwards on the bars then?
Crossbar squatting to be banned
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You can still sit backwards on the bars then?
cyberknight
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Had a discussion with a club member about this and i hold the opinion that there a lot of stuff that needs sorting out for safety first before they start banning this becuase others might copy it , its like making motorsport drivers drive around at 30 just in case someone might try to drive a bit fast .
Intersting regarding the positions as im a nibali descender , i use both positions dependant on conditions
Intersting regarding the positions as im a nibali descender , i use both positions dependant on conditions
Adam4868
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Thing is there is a lot more important things being sorted out before this.Its a minor thing in reality.Im skeptical how many accidents have actually happened by descending on the top tube...not many.Whereas the important stuff like the barriers and using your bidon as a grenade,well there pretty boring and I'm guessing not that interesting to most fans.
T.M.H.N.E.T
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The barriers weren't even interesting to fans when they fell over and sliced a few people up, it was easier to blame disc brakes.
T.M.H.N.E.T
Rainbows aren't just for world champions
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Something makes me think that drivers and motos were retrained at some point but continued to cause issues.
mjr
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Rules were tightened, especially about not overtaking unless race direction clearly authorised it. No more shoot about saying you misheard the call: if any doubt, no passing. A couple of team cars were booted from minor stage races (in Spain IIRC) to clarify it would be enforced.
Adam4868
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April the first aswell no sh1t 😁
https://www.velonews.com/news/road/uci-to-ban-forearms-time-trial-position-on-road-bikes/
Next on the agenda,two hands on the bars at all times,and no bare chests....
https://www.velonews.com/news/road/uci-to-ban-forearms-time-trial-position-on-road-bikes/
Next on the agenda,two hands on the bars at all times,and no bare chests....
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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So the rule is: “Sitting on the bicycle’s top tube is prohibited. Furthermore, using the forearms as a point of support on the handlebar is prohibited except in time trials.”
So expect to see riders squatting but holding themselves above the top tube; and resting their elbows on the handlebar, or even trying to only have their hands on the computer mount and nothing touching the bar, effectively riding no-hands.
Of course, all of those offer even less control than the prohibited positions!
rogerzilla
Legendary Member
There was a US racer in the 90s who often descended like a ski jumper, with both hands behind his back.
The big safety problem with the top tube squat is that it screws up the weight distribution, so a pothole or a snatch of the front brake will pitch the rider over the bars.
The big safety problem with the top tube squat is that it screws up the weight distribution, so a pothole or a snatch of the front brake will pitch the rider over the bars.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Anyone remember who? I don't!
Is that only true for the Froomey chest-on-stem position, not the Sagan under-the-saddle position?
rogerzilla
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matticus
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There is a lot of childish reaction to this. It's like "But Miss, you never said anything when Smithy was hitting Cuthbert in Maths. It's not FAIR!!"
You know, they can make more than one rule improvement; banning the thing YOU don't think is very dangerous doesn't mean the other thing won't be tackled.
And then there's twaddle like this:
You know, they can make more than one rule improvement; banning the thing YOU don't think is very dangerous doesn't mean the other thing won't be tackled.
And then there's twaddle like this:
I've got news for you: motorsport DOES have speeds moderated for safety! Remember grooved tyres in F1? The banned fan cars??
matticus
Guru
What baffles me is why would anyone WANT crossbar-squatting? How does it add to the sport? (I'm assuming everyone here is a spectator, not actually racing in televised mountain stages? Hmm?)
IMO it looks daft - but if you disagree, fine; meanwhile, tell me what are YOU gaining by watching a guy sit on his bike differently? Go to a bloody circus! Watch bicycle gymnastics!
IMO it looks daft - but if you disagree, fine; meanwhile, tell me what are YOU gaining by watching a guy sit on his bike differently? Go to a bloody circus! Watch bicycle gymnastics!
cyberknight
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i will admit i dont follow formula one as i find it dull although my point stands i think
matticus
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I don't think it does. Plenty of sports bodies reign in performance from time-to-time due to practical/safety issues. Research javelin throwing (unless it is Discus I'm thinking of!). Sport is not Top Trumps - bigger numbers aren't always better.
I think cricket put limits on bats. I suspect the list goes on ...
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