CTC capitulation?

[benb]

Here's another view ... We can debate the pros and cons until the cows come home, but the only way to gather some evidence of how it works in the UK is to run the experiment. Sometimes the results run contrary to expectations.

1. We already know what works
2. This is a motor vehicle roundabout, with zero cycling provision. It's scandalous that the money for this was taken from a cycling fund!

 

[Fab Foodie]

1. We already know what works
2. This is a motor vehicle roundabout, with zero cycling provision. It's scandalous that the money for this was taken from a cycling fund!

Sometimes demonstrating that something doesn't work has value in the bigger scheme as well. I'm no fan if these things either and found they were crap in Holland.

 

[benb]

Sometimes demonstrating that something doesn't work has value in the bigger scheme as well. I'm no fan if these things either and found they were crap in Holland.

So we already know they don't work!

 

[Fab Foodie]

So we already know they don't work!

But nobody listens to me!

 

[Fab Foodie]

Just as long as no-one gets killed or injured.

Well that's the big fear if course .... I'll bet somebody has done a Risk Assesment so that's all covered ....

 

[theclaud]

But nobody listens to me!

Can't blame 'em, what with the jacket potato thing 'n' all...

 

[ComedyPilot]

But nobody listens to me!

Then who ARE they listening to?

Is there a collective group of road users strenuously (and successfully) campaigning for sh1t infrastructure, and they always get their way?

 

[theclaud]

Then who ARE they listening to?

Is there a collective group of road users strenuously (and successfully) campaigning for sh1t infrastructure, and they always get their way?

Yes.

 

[ComedyPilot]

What are you doing on here @theclaud ?

Haven't you got a rugby match to be watching?

My Jujitsu instructor (lovely bloke from Cardiff) called a halt to tonight's training early so he could get home in time to watch it...

 

[Fab Foodie]

Can't blame 'em, what with the jacket potato thing 'n' all...

Oh c'mon, there are people here extolling the virtue of the WeinerSchnitzel as some kind of gastronomic delight ....
Why ruin perfectly good beans with baked spud?
Why ruin perfectly good veal or pork or chicken with breadcrumbs ....


Oh, hang on again .....

 

[theclaud]

Oh c'mon, there are people here extolling the virtue of the WeinerSchnitzel as some kind of gastronomic delight ....

But is there anyone here who can spell it?

 

[Fab Foodie]

W

But is there anyone here who can spell it?

What Wiener Schnitzel? Dunno

 

[theclaud]

What are you doing on here @theclaud ?

Haven't you got a rugby match to be watching?

My Jujitsu instructor (lovely bloke from Cardiff) called a halt to tonight's training early so he could get home in time to watch it...

It'll be on in the boozer so I will either catch the end or just the aftermath...

 

[Flying Dodo]

1. We already know what works
2. This is a motor vehicle roundabout, with zero cycling provision. It's scandalous that the money for this was taken from a cycling fund!

As mentioned already, either some money is spent on a "nowhere as good as it could be" solution, or nothing gets spent on the roundabout at all. The compromise solution should improve cycling safety a bit. Not as much as if the local authority had put their weight behind insisting on a proper cycling first answer (sadly, that wasn't going to happen in Bedford). But better than nothing.

 

[Fab Foodie]

It'll at least be a destination to cycle to and wonder!