Cyberattacks

[Illaveago]

Im on the list of ID's they wouldn't mess with, alongside Ross Kemp and Jason Statham.

They could make you look like Chris Rea.

 

[Illaveago]

When cyber attackers find ways into the systems via the back door it shows how these things are vulnerable especially when years ago it was revealed that a member of the government had been watching porn on his government computer.

 

[markemark]

Slightly off topic but JLR will not be financially secure if their suppliers go bust and JLR can't get the parts any more especially when the manufacturing system is built on 'just in time'.

That's a good point but I suspect they'll cope better than their suppliers whilst they put alternatives into place

 

[cyberknight]

If JLR are secure why are the taxpayers bailing them out ?

 

[bikingdad90]

If JLR are secure why are the taxpayers bailing them out ?

I’d like to know which MP has shares or what isn’t in the public realm such as if there are any local government pension scheme investments.

When it was the steel industry in trouble, the government wasn’t interested in stepping in to help.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

There’s a very large attack surface. Imagine over 750 applications, over 1 million shared passwords, tens of thousands of computers. It’s very hard to defend against attackers, and if you are attacked it very hard to determine how and extent of access they have gained and for how long. They may have been lurking for months.

Imagine a hotel with a million rooms, 20,000 doors, 2 million windows, and 900,000 occupants. You’ve got to defend every single one, and the attackers only need to find one way in. The attackers could be anyone of the 900,000 and there’s 1,020,000 known ways (and possibly some you arent aware of) they might have got in and they could be occupying an untold number of those rooms or lurking in the corridors or hiding in a store room or basement. The attackers may have got in with the ID of a legitimate occupant. It’s not a simple job of identifying where they are, what they have done or doing, and evicting them, then repairing the damage. Plus the elephant in the room, the attackers may be legitimate customers of the hotel, or employees, an inside job.

 

[PhotoNic69]

I heard from a reliable resource that the attackers behind JLR and M&S etc are a group of UK teenagers doing it for kick or kudos amongst their peers. Get them to come clean, give them amnesty and a high paid job to stop this craziness!

 

[Drago]

I heard from a reliable resource that the attackers behind JLR and M&S etc are a group of UK teenagers doing it for kick or kudos amongst their peers. Get them to come clean, give them amnesty and a high paid job to stop this craziness!

Or catch them and taser them.

 

[PaulSB]

If JLR are secure why are the taxpayers bailing them out ?

My understanding is the government are lending JLR £1.5bn (?) specifically to allow them to pay their supply chain. The loan is repayable over five years. Taxpayers are not bailing the company out.

JLR haven't sold or manufactured any vehicles during this time and so have zero income. While JLR may be financially robust and secure I doubt very much the company has £1.5bn knocking about and might struggle to borrow this from the banks for the intended use.

 

[Psamathe]

A news item made me wonder why these companies are not better prepared ...

I've had my card (and associated) details stolen from online retailers twice, both within the last 5 years and both from very reputable UK/European companies and both times used fraudulently by hackers (or "downstream").

Aspect I found most surprising is the e-mail notifying me from the companies who were attacked, both said they have now "increased their security". Obvious question is that if increased security was available how come they didn't put it in before the attacks rather than after? I can't believe the "increased security" suddently became availble only days after they were attacked and had customer data stolen.

Other frustrating aspect is that on both occasions my cards were used fraudulently before being stopped and it was the card companies who took the hit refunding that fraud. The companies whose systems were vulnerable took no liability, cost them nothing, it was the card companies that paid for their vulnerabilities (which means in reality it was us end-customers who paid for it through higher card costs).

 

[markemark]

My understanding is the government are lending JLR £1.5bn (?) specifically to allow them to pay their supply chain. The loan is repayable over five years. Taxpayers are not bailing the company out.

JLR haven't sold or manufactured any vehicles during this time and so have zero income. While JLR may be financially robust and secure I doubt very much the company has £1.5bn knocking about and might struggle to borrow this from the banks for the intended use.

A bank is loaning JLR the money, the taxpayers are underwriting it in the case of default.

 

[PaulSB]

A bank is loaning JLR the money, the taxpayers are underwriting it in the case of default.

Thanks

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

Why burnout is a growing problem in cybersecurity https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgqn8e4e700o

 

[tom73]

It's not just big business that's at risk , a report not long ago highlighted the growing number of schools and colleges. Getting hacked by the students. The report highlighted a number of examples inc on primary school that got done by a 9 year old pupil.

 

[Aescott]

JLR owned by Tata. I seem to recall that Tata Consultancy provided cyber security for M&S......