Cycle cash boost for Scotland

[HJ]

I have long said that we need more cycle parking, looks like someone has been listening, I wish

 

[chap]

I have long said that we need more cycle parking, looks like someone has been listening, I wish

The Royal Infirmry is a good idea, Queen Margaret University is pretty much in the sticks but any place with a high concentration of people is good for more cycle parking, Aberdeen University is a grand place to put them too.

Perhaps, Edinburgh would benefit from cycle parking being made available across Princes Street, George Street, and the Royal Mile. Bar the odd bus, they really should pedestrianise that place.

How is work going on the Springfield monorail tram? Are they on target for this side of the century? Are the tram lines still exacting their revenge on unsuspecting cyclists?

 

[marinyork]

I wouldn't trust Sustrans with 50p. This scheme sounds all right though. Be careful what you wish for though, a similar scheme here at a similar hospital that forced them to install "moderately safe" short stay cycle parking for the public at a popular hospital (where there was 0 previously) here ended up with them being padlocked away unusable for much of the 24hr window. Another scheme ended up better.

What I find slightly odd about your blog is the claim that edinburgh has either 1700 sheffield stands or capacity for 1700 bikes through around 850 cycle stands. Is there's some magical thing I'm missing about Scottish cycling again?

 

[HJ]

The Royal Infirmry is a good idea, Queen Margaret University is pretty much in the sticks but any place with a high concentration of people is good for more cycle parking, Aberdeen University is a grand place to put them too.

Perhaps, Edinburgh would benefit from cycle parking being made available across Princes Street, George Street, and the Royal Mile. Bar the odd bus, they really should pedestrianise that place.

How is work going on the Springfield monorail tram? Are they on target for this side of the century? Are the tram lines still exacting their revenge on unsuspecting cyclists?

Chap, that is the first time I have heard Musselburgh being described as pretty much in the sticks...

I wouldn't trust Sustrans with 50p. This scheme sounds all right though. Be careful what you wish for though, a similar scheme here at a similar hospital that forced them to install "moderately safe" short stay cycle parking for the public at a popular hospital (where there was 0 previously) here ended up with them being padlocked away unusable for much of the 24hr window. Another scheme ended up better.

What I find slightly odd about your blog is the claim that edinburgh has either 1700 sheffield stands or capacity for 1700 bikes through around 850 cycle stands. Is there's some magical thing I'm missing about Scottish cycling again?

marinyork, I ken what you mean about Sustrans...

According to the City of Edinburgh Council there are 1,697 public cycle parking spaces for a city of about 468,070 people (outwith the festival). Now I don't know exactly how many bikes there are, but I do know that the Council wants 15% of journeys to be by bike by 2020. So that was one journey per person per day that would need 70210 cycle parking places, which rather more that are currently available.

 

[marinyork]

According to the City of Edinburgh Council there are 1,697 public cycle parking spaces for a city of about 468,070 people (outwith the festival). Now I don't know exactly how many bikes there are, but I do know that the Council wants 15% of journeys to be by bike by 2020. So that was one journey per person per day that would need 70210 cycle parking places, which rather more that are currently available.

It's off topic but it was on your blog it was a great piece, I'm just interested by the vastness of these numbers/comparitive smallness of these number depending on definitions. I live in a city that is no more or less known for cycling than yours with a similar population and I can tell you that we have nothing like 1700 council and publicly installed capacity in the city in terms of bicycles. So if these numbers are true I'm going to use it to beat my council with . If on the other hand one relaxes the definitions of public cycle parking capacity, one can come to almost any set of numbers you want to for my city and that we might even have parity. We certainly need a lot more. Amusingly enough 2000 people commute by bicycle in this city, supposedly, which does beg the question where do a lot of them park, especially in the city centre?

15% is a lot . Sounds high on rhetoric low on funds.

 

[HJ]

The figures on public cycle parking spaces in Edinburgh comes from the reply to a Freedom of Information request (which I found, I didn't actually make it). The current number of journeys take be bike in Edinburgh is somewhere between 2-5%, depending on which figures you use. Edinburgh is the only city in the UK which has signed the Charter of Brussels in which it commits pledges it's self to boosting cycling journeys to 15% of total journeys by 2020, whether that will happen is a matter of some debate...

 

[marinyork]

I read the FOI request, but it doesn't make it any clearer what that means unfortunately. It's interesting as it could mean you have about 3x more cycle stands than we do or about the same. For example here there are about 200 sheffield stands outside the city centre that are public (there really are about that number it just happens to come to that) and the number within the city centre is known but I forget what it is.

I'd love to have some of the other respective numbers for this city though like car stuff . For things like shopping centres there isn't anywhere near 1% compared to car spaces in some cases!

 

[HJ]

I suspect that it is mostly sheffield stands (or similar), but there are also a scattering of bike lockers around the city, some of which the council has paid for. Some of the parking provision is shown on edinburgh.cyclestreets.net if you want to have a browse around the photomap, people are slowly adding photos to it.

 

[marinyork]

Ah the opencyclemap, yes I added some parking round here too. How the smeg did you get the API to work?

 

[HJ]

I don't know how edinburgh.cyclestreets.net was developed, it is still in beta but it works fairly well. I know the project originated from Cambridge Cycling Campaign, with funding from the Scottish Government, you could try asking the project team, they might be willing to help.

 

[marinyork]

Thanks. I've been trying to do those sort of things locally for a while now for cycling round here. Seems a bit odd a gold pot is hidden away somewhere in Scotland. I know all about OSM and stuff added quite a bit of data myself.

 

[chap]

Chap, that is the first time I have heard Musselburgh being described as pretty much in the sticks...

Excuse my Morningside manner

 

[HJ]