Cycle killer walks free from court.

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BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
It seems everyone thinks it was far too lenient apart from the judge and the guilty party, what a joke of a sentence for at least manslaughter.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Can't be many Andrew Edwards in Hyde - only lives up the road - I'd better watch out for his driving !

Blacked out - my ar$e - that's one of 'text book' excuses. Well if he 'blacked out' should he not be driving ?
 

abo

Well-Known Member
Location
Stockton on Tees
So basically he is so tired from driving he blacked out, ran a guy over, failed to stop and drove off, then did stop and check the damage to his van, turned around, saw the accident, continued to drive off, cyclist died, bloke doesn't do bird.

That is so ****ed up I don't know where to start. You can bet that if it had been say, the Chief Constable's son or something this guy woulld have gone down for a long time.
 
It’s been said on here before – but it’s another case of walk down the street and bash someone with an iron bar and you go to prison, take the precaution of attaching the iron bar to a motor vehicle and you can get away with it.

The excuse of “my partners not well (but recovering) and I’d been driving for a few hours” is a f*****g joke.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, but it is "nice" to see that things like this don't just happen on this side of the pond.

We had a case over on this side of the pond (I forget which state) where a lawyer who was looking at his fourth DUI/DWI had hit and killed a cyclist. He stopped his car, picked up all of the pieces from his car, got back in and drove off. When he was finally caught, tried (and thankfully) convicted, part of his "defense" was that he didn't want his five year old son to see a dead body.

Uh, if he was so worried about his five year old son, why was he driving drunk in the first place?

And as a lawyer he should have known what would happen to him for hit and run, vehicular manslaughter, tampering with evidence/crime scene. Something tells me that when he gets out of jail that even if his states bar doesn't pull his law license that he won't be able to find a job anywhere as a lawyer.

There was another (more recent I think) case down here in Florida where a gal "lost control" of her vehicle, crossed the double yellow lines, hit a woman sending her into the bay. The LEOs didn't know if it was the impact with the car or the water that killed. She was riding with her husband and they were both in the bike lane. The woman who "lost control" of her vehicle missed the husband and struck the wife.

The last I've heard there have been no charges pressed against the woman who had lost control of her vehicle.

I was talking to a friend of mine about this case not too long ago and she was like there were "accidents" that she can see where it wouldn't be the drivers fault if they occurred. I pointed out to her that the owner/driver of a vehicle is responsible for making sure that it is safe to operate on the public roads. And that if it isn't than they're responsible for anything that happens as a result of said vehicle not being in proper working oder.

My new bike has presta valves and is accordingly has "high pressure tubes/tires." And as I'm sure that most ya know with those types of tubes we have to check out tire pressure more frequently than those who have tires/tubes with schreader valves. I also pointed out to her that as the operator of a bicycle that it is my responsibility to make sure that my break cables (for my Hardrock which has mechanical brakes) and the gear cables on both bikes (my Seek 2 has hydraulic brakes) are in working order so that when I need to slow down/stop I can do so.
 
It’s been said on here before – but it’s another case of walk down the street and bash someone with an iron bar and you go to prison, take the precaution of attaching the iron bar to a motor vehicle and you can get away with it.

The excuse of “my partners not well (but recovering) and I’d been driving for a few hours” is a f*****g joke.

We have a similar saying over on this side of the pond. "If you want to kill someone and get away with it, give them a bike and hit them with a car. And than claim that you didn't see them, or that they 'swerved' into my path."
 
Can't be many Andrew Edwards in Hyde - only lives up the road - I'd better watch out for his driving !

Blacked out - my ar$e - that's one of 'text book' excuses. Well if he 'blacked out' should he not be driving ?

One would think not, but as I'm sure we know it doesn't always work that way.
 

rowan 46

Über Member
Location
birmingham
It seems to be a problem that the law has with "vehicular manslaughter" (is that an american term?) but you can read about a case most weeks where a motorist has got a lenient sentence for maiming or killing someone. serious jail time is the exception rather than the rule.
 
As my disbelief at this really upsetting case has grown, I can’t help thinking (but am in no way advocating) that the imposition of such pathetically lenient and insulting sentences can only lead to a rise in vigilante reprisals. It’s a disgraceful case of absolutely FA regard for the victim by the driver AND the courts.
 
Judge Andrew Woolman sentenced him to 12 months in prison, suspended for 18 months, banned him from driving for a year and ordered to carry out 200 hours of unpaid work

Sorry, you kill someone after blacking out at the wheel because you decided to work in an unfit state and you only get a year driving ban. Dear me, this man should never be allowed back on the road.
 
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