Cycle killer walks free from court.

[nilling]

Minimum disqualification, I'm no lawyer but it seems inline with the CPS guidelines

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/...g_death_by_careless_or_inconsiderate_driving/

 

[upsidedown]

The police should be appealling this, it cannot possibly be seen to be in the public interest for that man to be back on the roads in one year.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

The police should be appealling this, it cannot possibly be seen to be in the public interest for that man to be back on the roads in one year.

Agreed.

 

[sdr gb]

Can't be many Andrew Edwards in Hyde - only lives up the road - I'd better watch out for his driving !

Same here, Hyde isn't too far away from me.

If it is within CPS guidelines, then surely they need to be altered to prevent joke sentences like this.

 

[deckertim]

compare it with this case
http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2011/07/02/prison-for-driver-who-killed-charity-cyclist/
No mention of the driver in this case not stopping and clearly there seems to be a lot of remorse. What a screwed up justice system we have in this country.

 

[Mad at urage]

Minimum disqualification, I'm no lawyer but it seems inline with the CPS guidelines

http://www.cps.gov.u...derate_driving/

Hang on, according to that link "the maximum sentence has been set at 5 years imprisonment" and there are three levels of seriousness:

"Careless or inconsiderate driving falling not far short of dangerous driving"
"Nature of offence: Other cases of careless or inconsiderate driving "
"Nature of Offence: Careless or inconsiderate driving arising from momentary inattention with no aggravating factors "

The sentence range for the most serious of these is "36 weeks - 3 years custody" - so for an offence which Parliament said should carry a max of 5 years, this guidance says - never award more than three!

Then the judge gives a sentence which includes no custody, instead a community order! That's the sentence range for "arising from momentary inattention with no aggravating factors" ... let's look at the list of aggravating factors:

Oh yes: "Irresponsible behaviour, such as failing to stop".

Who the hell do these people think they are to cut the maximum sentence to little more than half that set by parliament?

What bloody planet is this judge on? Choosing to drive whilst tired does not "arise from momentary inattention". Going back, having a look and driving off is not "momentary inattention".

 

[400bhp]

Let's remember we don't have all the facts of the case, only what has been presented to us by the media.

 

[pshore]

Any normal person worrying about their loved one would value life even more than normal.

Either he should do actual jail time, or spend some time in a mental facility because the story (as presented in the press) shows me he is not right in the head.

I hope Andrew Stephenson MP takes this a bit further.

 

[4F]

That is a disgrace.

 

[abo]

compare it with this case
http://www.shropshir...harity-cyclist/
No mention of the driver in this case not stopping and clearly there seems to be a lot of remorse. What a screwed up justice system we have in this country.

6 months inside is still nowhere near long enough for killing someone. There was a guy near me got over two years for a small part in a large corporate fraud (the main offender got 7 years, just to show his comparative level of involvement) and he ended up doing it in Strangeways.

So basically, take a life through thoughtlessness, carelessness, negligence or even sheer bloody mindedness and get a slap on the wrist. But touch the money and see what happens...

 

[Angelfishsolo]

6 months inside is still nowhere near long enough for killing someone. There was a guy near me got over two years for a small part in a large corporate fraud (the main offender got 7 years, just to show his comparative level of involvement) and he ended up doing it in Strangeways.

So basically, take a life through thoughtlessness, carelessness, negligence or even sheer bloody mindedness and get a slap on the wrist. But touch the money and see what happens...

White collar crime has carried long sentences for as long as I can remember. The value of currency is obviously far great than human life <urge to vomit now>

 

[funnymummy]

It's not often i'm speechless, but after redaing the link I can say I am now

 

[Tynan]

like it or not justice in this country revolves around innocent until proved guilty so although he pleaded guilty when collared, you can't prove they didn't black out momentarily and the rest of his story about stress etc isn't true

while his subsequent actions are morally horrid, offenses aren't much more than leaving the scene of an accident

should we ever be in court facing a serious charge and looking at a lot of circumstantial evidence you'd be glad of a god barrister and a judge that upholds the law demonstrating that although it does look poor, nothing more than that can be proved

better that 10 guilty men go free and all that

 

[Angelfishsolo]

l you'd be glad of a god barrister

I would love a god barrister

Sorry could not resist it

 

[PaulB]

like it or not justice in this country revolves around innocent until proved guilty so although he pleaded guilty when collared, you can't prove they didn't black out momentarily and the rest of his story about stress etc isn't true

while his subsequent actions are morally horrid, offenses aren't much more than leaving the scene of an accident

should we ever be in court facing a serious charge and looking at a lot of circumstantial evidence you'd be glad of a god barrister and a judge that upholds the law demonstrating that although it does look poor, nothing more than that can be proved

better that 10 guilty men go free and all that

No due respect whatsoever but that stinks like a fish's fanny.

Firstly, you go along with his get out by calling the death of the cyclist 'an accident'! There's very very rarely any such thing as 'an accident'. There's ALWAYS a contributory factor, negligence or malicious intent.

He also can't prove he DID black out momentarily. If he had, there's justification for losing his licence on a long-term basis on serious medical grounds right there.

There's no 'circumstantial evidence' there whatsoever. He ran into a cyclist and killed him. That's not something you can play with in taking your wooly-minded liberalism to such ridiculous depths. That young man will still be dead a long time after his killer has forgotten all about it.