Cycle killer walks free from court.

[TheDoctor]

IMHO it is as poor a defence as 'it wasn't my fault officer, I was drunk'. The problem is, it is easy to define a limit for alcohol and to test whether someone is over that limit. More difficult for fatigue as (I imagine) it must be pretty difficult to test whether someone is tired.

Quite so.

However, being tired didn't save Gary Hart from the slammer, and nor should it have done.

 

[abo]

Quite so.

However, being tired didn't save Gary Hart from the slammer, and nor should it have done.

No cyclists involved

Seriously though, it was easy to prove Hart was tired as IIRC he'd been texting or phoning some woman he'd met all night before he fell off the road.

But... thiss guy *admitted* he was tired. Come on, judge

 

[Angelfishsolo]

This is the response for the Attorney General's Officel

Dear Mr Sewell

Thank you for writing to the Attorney General's Office about this case.


As you may be aware Attorney General has the power to refer to the Court
of Appeal for review, sentences passed in the Crown Court in respect of
certain offences where he concludes that a sentence imposed was unduly
lenient. This power however only applies to a limited number of
offences which do not include the offences in this case: causing death
by careless driving and failing to stop after an accident. This means
that it is not possible for the Attorney to ask the Court of Appeal to
look at the sentence in this case.


Further information about the unduly lenient sentence scheme which may
be of interest has been published on our website at
www.attorneygeneral.gov.uk.

Best Wishes

Jeffrey Care
Correspondence Unit
Attorney General's Office

 

[Cardiac]

This is the response for the Attorney General's Officel

Dear Mr ......
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Thank you for writing to the Attorney General's Office about this case.
Best Wishes

Jeffrey Care
Correspondence Unit
Attorney General's Office

I just got the same.

Makes me want to throw something. The law in this country is completely bonkers sometimes. The Unduly Lenient Sentences Scheme seems far to restrictive in its scope. Maybe time to introduce myself to my MP.

Dear Mr Djanogly....

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I just got the same.

Makes me want to throw something. The law in this country is completely bonkers sometimes. I shall take the advice given and see where that leads to.

ARRRRGGGGGG. I am so f'ing angry.

Why the hell are the crimes listed below (especially those highlighted) more important that the death of a cyclist by someone unfit to drive.

Only certain cases are eligibleThe sentence must be for one of these offences:

• more serious crimes which can be dealt with only in the Crown Court, such as murder, rape and robbery
• some sex crimes, especially those involving children, but also indecent assault and some
  other sex crimes
• child cruelty
• threats to kill
• some serious frauds
• some drugs crimes
• some racially or religiously aggravated crimes
• attempting or inciting any of these.

 

[abo]

The law is an ass

 

[gaz]

Basically the response you got is we don't care about people that drive dangerously and kill.
Which we already knew.

I take it that is your own highlight on the drugs, that won't be possession of cannabis. More the mass manufaction and dealing of drugs which leads to many other crimes.

 

[pshore]

This is the response for the Attorney General's Officel

Dear Mr Sewell

Thank you for writing to the Attorney General's Office about this case.


As you may be aware Attorney General has the power to refer to the Court
of Appeal for review, sentences passed in the Crown Court in respect of
certain offences where he concludes that a sentence imposed was unduly
lenient. This power however only applies to a limited number of
offences which do not include the offences in this case: causing death
by careless driving and failing to stop after an accident. This means
that it is not possible for the Attorney to ask the Court of Appeal to
look at the sentence in this case.


Further information about the unduly lenient sentence scheme which may
be of interest has been published on our website at
www.attorneygeneral.gov.uk.

Best Wishes

Jeffrey Care
Correspondence Unit
Attorney General's Office

If there is one person who could suggest a reasonable next step, it would be Martin Porter, the Cycling Silk.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

If there is one person who could suggest a reasonable next step, it would be Martin Porter, the Cycling Silk.

That is a wonderful idea. Will try to find his e-mail address tomorrow.

 

[Digital_Cowboy]

This is the response for the Attorney General's Officel

Dear Mr Sewell

Thank you for writing to the Attorney General's Office about this case.


As you may be aware Attorney General has the power to refer to the Court
of Appeal for review, sentences passed in the Crown Court in respect of
certain offences where he concludes that a sentence imposed was unduly
lenient. This power however only applies to a limited number of
offences which do not include the offences in this case: causing death
by careless driving and failing to stop after an accident. This means
that it is not possible for the Attorney to ask the Court of Appeal to
look at the sentence in this case.


Further information about the unduly lenient sentence scheme which may
be of interest has been published on our website at
www.attorneygeneral.gov.uk.

Best Wishes

Jeffrey Care
Correspondence Unit
Attorney General's Office

So basically it boils down to what many of us have said time-and-time again. IF ya want to kill someone give 'em a bike, hit 'em with a car, and than say "I didn't see 'em." Get out of jail free.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Basically the response you got is we don't care about people that drive dangerously and kill.
Which we already knew.

I take it that is your own highlight on the drugs, that won't be possession of cannabis. More the mass manufaction and dealing of drugs which leads to many other crimes.

Yes the highlighting is mine.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

So basically it boils down to what many of us have said time-and-time again. IF ya want to kill someone give 'em a bike, hit 'em with a car, and than say "I didn't see 'em." Get out of jail free.

It sure seems that way.

 

[Digital_Cowboy]

It sure seems that way.

Yes it does, yes it does. It'd be nice if it didn't seem that way. The laws need to change, and people need to learn (that includes LEOs and the courts) that we all (with just a little work) can get along with each other.

 

[400bhp]

Have any of you contacted the family of the deceased and see what thoughts they have?

 

[Tinuts]

The value of currency is obviously far great than human life <urge to vomit now>

And the value of not holding people up greater, apparently, than the risk of killing someone:
Fine for driving in bus lane £200
Fine for using mobile whilst driving £60

And let's not forget that driving whilst using a mobile has been shown to have the same effect on driving ability as being drunk.

Yes, the justice system in this country sure is ****ed up.