Cycle thread on Outdoors Magic

[Grendel]

May be of interest to some of you:
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/...1/srchdte/0/cp/1/v/8/sp/354210394236230352300

 

[2Loose]

Shocked

 

[Cab]

Makes the news stories seem so much more personal. Which, of course, for the family, they are.

Shocking tale, and in my view its an abhorrently lenient sentence.

 

[Origamist]

Distressing reading.

Colm ab Ifan has it right:

Now get off this forum and stop trying to justify the monstrous behaviour of your worthless son.

 

[MacB]

Distressing reading.

Colm ab Ifan has it right:

yep, horrendous as the whole thing is I find myself dwelling on the idea that they even tried to hint at Tony Spink being suicidal as a defence. The driver should never be allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle again. That he's not in jail for murder is shocking but the idea that he could be back on the roads is disgusting.

By the way, his driving ban, does that begin when he leaves jail or is it running while he's unable to drive anyway?

 

[magnatom]

Very, very sad. As others have said the sentence is shocking.

 

[Origamist]

By the way, his driving ban, does that begin when he leaves jail or is it running while he's unable to drive anyway?

MacB, I think the law is "about" to be changed (not sure when?). The driving ban will now start after the sentence has been served.

 

[2Loose]

MacB, I think the law is "about" to be changed (not sure when?). The driving ban will now start after the sentence has been served.

Hate to link to a Daily Wail article, but more info here... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iving-bans-begin-prison-sentences-served.html

Nothing about the actual date that it will start, just that it definitely will.

 

[Bollo]

I was aware of the case from the news but it makes it all the more moving when you hear the story direct from the victim's family. The attempt by the driver's family to mitigate their son's actions just shows that they have absolutely no idea.

 

[PBancroft]

I am left speechless by the post from Frank Stubbs.

I will be pleased if I can see some positive responses

 

[HobbesChoice]

I am left speechless by the post from Frank Stubbs.

Frank Stubbs even responding on that forum just proves to me the lack of respect the Stubbs family have towards the Spink family! Disgusting behaviour.

 

[Cab]

Its like watching a slow train crash.

 

[PBancroft]

Having said I was speechless, I went ahead and posted on there. I couldn't help myself.

What surprises me most, I think, is the lack of remorse. Years ago I worked in a shoe shop to see myself through Uni. The delivery driver there had been in Stubbs' position.

He had been driving down the motorway in an artic lorry. It was noisy, and made lots of interesting banging noises over every bump, and every time he stopped. He had to do an emergency stop when someone else stopped in front of him (I forget why now) and the car behind him failed to stop in time. Because of the noise in the cab, and the noise the vehicle made anyway, he simply didn't hear.

When he pulled away, nearby vehicles immediately flagged him down. He stopped, pulled over and called the authorities. He even went to the chap's funeral.

Now, it wasn't his fault, it truly wasn't, and I can understand why people who drive big vehicles can inadvertently cause damage (even to life) without knowing. But this event obviously shook him up. It was still evident years later when he recounted the story.

Stubbs doesn't seem to have the remorse gene in him, and his 'father' (I do wonder whether that particular set of posts was a mean troll) seems to be similarly affected. The driver I knew was sorry, every day, for something that wasn't his fault.

I don't understand how Stubbs wouldn't feel the same emotion.