Cycle2Work and Halfords

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by MrGrumpy, 1 Sep 2007.

  1. MrGrumpy

    MrGrumpy Huge Member

    Fly Fifer
    Ok I`m going to buy a bike through cycle2work but I`m limited to £500. The bike I really fancied was an extra £50, do you think Halfords could do me a deal as such ? Its really a bit of a pain becuase I know some folks using other schemes were able to add to it, although I reckon its not really allowed !
  2. Cathryn

    Cathryn California Correspondant

    You should ask. If you don't ask, you'll never know!!!
  3. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    South Manchester
    I'm sure you can... just ask - assume you are limited to the value through work - nothing wrong with handing over 50 notes as well !
  4. skwerl

    skwerl New Member

    technically you can't add to the company contribution because of the legal issues around the contract. remember the comp owns the bike and leases it to you. If you pay 10% of the pruchase cost then you'll both own a share, blah, blah, and it gets complicated.
    I was able to top up when I got my bike but that was 2 years ago. Most suppliers have closed that option now.
    Halfords are also unlikely to offer a deal because of the cost to them of bikes-for-work. It reduces their margin and leaves no room for negatiation on price. They might offer a discount if you agree to buy X amount of accessories though.
  5. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    Yeah, poor Halfords, scrimping just so that we can cycle to work. How philanthropic of them.

    Rubbish. They're making a mint out of this.
  6. skwerl

    skwerl New Member

    I seriously doubt that. I imagine that the % sales they make through bike-2-work is pretty minimal. They'll make more money on Carrera bikes but it's still not going to be much of their total P&L.

    Of course, if you can demonstrate otherwise please do. Otherwise please don't discount other people's comments as "Rubbish"
  7. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    Sorry, maybe rubbish was the wrong word.

    Halfords wouldn't do the scheme if there wasn't profit in it for them. Why else would they?
  8. vernon

    vernon Harder than Ronnie Pickering

    Meanwood, Leeds
    There might be a profit in it for them but their margins might be squeezed. I have seen a handful of posting in other forums claiming that, while bike dealers are participating in the scheme, they do so a list price and not at their advertised discount prices.
  9. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    I'd be interested to know the real deal then. My LBS are rubbing their hands with the scheme. When the vouchers are released they're absoutely inundated with work and orders, and can't build the bikes quick enough. It's certainly helping them financially, with profit from the scheme and ongoing support.

    I'm really struggling to believe that Halfords aren't doing pretty well out of this. Have you seen the truck that they have just to promote the scheme?

    They're less likely to offer a discount than a cash payer because the employee has the voucher in his/her hand and correctly thinks that they're getting a bargain anyway.

    Citroen do the same thing. The dealers are given national offers from Citroen. When people start to haggle, the dealer tells them that there's already £x off the car and no more room for manouvre. They don't tell you that they still have the dealer 12.5% to play with.

    I might be wrong.
  10. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Penarth, Wales
    Every company has to make a profit or go 'bust'. In the case of Halfords it is just the same and of course when we say people make x% profit we forget their overheads etc. that have to come out of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  11. skwerl

    skwerl New Member

    I'm sure they are making money out of it. But as a % of their overall profit I imagine it's pretty small. The thing is, with companies of that size, you chase every profit you can. Sometimes companies even run loss-leading ventures because of secondary revenue, e.g. Halfords get repeat custom for spares, servicing, accessories etc.

    As vernon says, the cost to smaller companies is significant. Condor had to add a profit margin to the list price of my bike because the normal profit is wiped out when they sell bikes-for-work. Not sure if that's to all suppliers or if it was just Halfords (my bike was ordered through Halfords and supplied to them by Condor). The net cost to me is still going to end up at about 65% of retail so I don't care about the increased price.

    Mr Paul - your comment is spot on. It's unlikely anyone will get a discount because they're already saving up to 41% on list so it's safe to assume most customers aren't going to try and haggle for further savings. Still, if you rock up at Halfords and say "I want that bike but my Company cap is 500 quid" they may discount the price to get the sale. Depends if they think you're bluffing or not.
  12. alicat

    alicat Guru

    Mr Grumpy

    Have you tried asking your company if they will raise the limit? My company limits the cost to £1000 which is the limit at which they need a consumer credit licence. A higher limit would get round your problem nicely and give you the opportunity to add some accessories to the deal as well.
  13. DLB

    DLB Senior Member

    Would somebody whose whose bought under this scheme give me some idea of how much of a bargain the bikes are.

    I'd be interested to hear how much you paid per week etc and how much you had to pay at the end of the agreement.
  14. skwerl

    skwerl New Member

    I can't tell you how much I'll pay at the end but it's s'posed to be around 5% of purchase value.
    My bike was £1130. The scheme paid £1000 and I paid the rest. I then paid £50 quid a month (interest free!) for 12 months. Come October next year my 3 years will be up and I'll be offered the chance to buy the bike for approx 60 quid.
    Net cost to me is 600+60+130=790, for a bike that cost 1130
  15. DLB

    DLB Senior Member

    your costs make sense to me but not the 3 years??? If you pay £50 for 12 months surely the bike will be yours after a year? Or am i missing something here?
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