Cycling no-handed contravenes the Human Rights Act

[Gwylan]

I guess you wouldn't be to keen on sandals with your suit then.

Has to include white socks to ensure the complete twerp look.

 

[Solocle]

actually I now remember a mate being stopped for unicycling. He challenged the policeman to state what was illegal about it and the copper after a bit of pondering did actually bring up the lack of a back brake, whereupon my mate laughed at him and rode off. They never bothered stopping him subsequently, despite it being a small town with the same copper likely seeing him again.

And thinking about the "back brake" thing, I presume a pennyfarthing is technically illegal for that very reason. Having done a pennyfarthing day in London, we dit meet a couple of police officers on horseback, but got away with it and one of the officers offered us a swap, but we didn't take her up on it.

Just to get pedantic about specifics.

There is no requirement for a back brake. The Pedal Cycle construction and use regulations are quite specific.

The core requirements:
Save as provided in regulation 8 and 9:
Every pedal cycle shall be equipped with at least one braking system.

Every bicycle or tricycle the height of the saddle of which is 635 mm or more, and every cycle with four or more wheels, shall:

If it is so constructed that one or more of the wheels is incapable of rotating independently of the pedals, be equipped with a braking system operating on the front wheel, or, if it has more than one front wheel, on at least two front wheels.

Otherwise, be equipped with two independent braking systems, one operating on the front, one on the rear (with the same requirement about at least 2 wheels if there's more than one).

Let's take stock, then. Fixies need one front brake. Ordinary bikes need a front and a rear brake.

Unicycles, having only one wheel, need one brake.

Recumbents with a low saddle, just need one brake, can be front or rear! Same as kiddies bikes.

Penny Farthings would fall under the fixie category, so needing a front brake.

But wait a moment! We haven't looked at regulation 8 and 9. Well, 8 is boring, it's a grandfather clause for bikes constructed before 1984.

9, however, has this line.
Nothing in regulation 7 or 8 applies to
Any pedal cycle so constructed that the pedals act on any wheel or on the axle of any wheel without the interposition of any gearing or chain.

Wait a minute! Penny farthings meet this description. They do not, in fact, require any brakes whatsoever.

Pedal Cycles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1983

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

And business folk that wear a suit without a tie. An erosion of standards.

What about Prime Ministers doing the same????

or should that be discussed in "The Other Place"

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Has to include white socks to ensure the complete twerp look.

or no socks??
and slightly shorter trousers to make it obviosu

 

[Profpointy]

Just to get pedantic about specifics.

There is no requirement for a back brake. The Pedal Cycle construction and use regulations are quite specific.

The core requirements:
Save as provided in regulation 8 and 9:
Every pedal cycle shall be equipped with at least one braking system.

Every bicycle or tricycle the height of the saddle of which is 635 mm or more, and every cycle with four or more wheels, shall:

If it is so constructed that one or more of the wheels is incapable of rotating independently of the pedals, be equipped with a braking system operating on the front wheel, or, if it has more than one front wheel, on at least two front wheels.

Otherwise, be equipped with two independent braking systems, one operating on the front, one on the rear (with the same requirement about at least 2 wheels if there's more than one).

Let's take stock, then. Fixies need one front brake. Ordinary bikes need a front and a rear brake.

Unicycles, having only one wheel, need one brake.

Recumbents with a low saddle, just need one brake, can be front or rear! Same as kiddies bikes.

Penny Farthings would fall under the fixie category, so needing a front brake.

But wait a moment! We haven't looked at regulation 8 and 9. Well, 8 is boring, it's a grandfather clause for bikes constructed before 1984.

9, however, has this line.
Nothing in regulation 7 or 8 applies to
Any pedal cycle so constructed that the pedals act on any wheel or on the axle of any wheel without the interposition of any gearing or chain.

Wait a minute! Penny farthings meet this description. They do not, in fact, require any brakes whatsoever.

Pedal Cycles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1983

Good to know I wasn't actually flagrantly flouting the law on my pennyfarthing ride. I envisaged being chased down the mall by the horse-riding officers !

 

[Profpointy]

That's an opinion you can have.

It's wrong but I can't deny you the right to be wrong.

What about with my blue Harris Tweed suit? Incidentally this was bought after taking one of Accie's style tips

 

[Gwylan]

What about with my blue Harris Tweed suit? Incidentally this was bought after taking one of Accie's style tips

I'd take the 5th and hope

 

[presta]

What if you have no hands?

No hands? No problem.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4H04Rmkrw

 

[Punkawallah]

Given the number of deaths due to cars, including due to vehicular pollution, surely any driver can be technically pulled over for this.

‘Not being in proper control of the vehicle’.

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

If that bobby is really that bothered about the ECHR then perhaps she could clamp down on people wearing brown shoes with a blue suit? Thats a violation of my right not to feel sick.

Wore exactly that to my last interview. Where do I hand myself in for such a heinous violation?

 

[Baldy]

Wore exactly that to my last interview. Where do I hand myself in for such a heinous violation?

Report directly to the gulag, take your own shovels.

 

[Andy in Germany]

‘Not being in proper control of the vehicle’.

Fair enough if they had booked the cyclist on that basis. But the police are using the UN convention as a basis, then it should be applied across the board.

 

[steveindenmark]

The 'offence' was that he might have deprived someone of life, or injured them, if he fell off and hit them, I believe, hence the HR Act being hoisted up the flagpole.

She was clearly a fish out of water who needs an office job to keep her away from the public.

 

[PeteXXX]

She was clearly a fish out of water who needs an office job to keep her away from the public.

She did appear to be floundering, didn't she!

 

[raleighnut]

No back brake on a non existent back wheel...?

I've posted it before but .......................A mate got stopped on his motorbike by a copper who whilst checking over his bike (TBH it was a bit scruffy) said "Your back brake is defective" whilst deftly manipulating the Clutch lever.