D Day

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djb1971

Legendary Member
Location
Far Far Away
It's a shame a few on here have turned this thread into another future locked one.
We all have points to get across and there's a way to do it correctly without causing offence.

Decorum on the forum.
 
Freedom of speech, you know the kind of thing that people sacrificed themselves for, the kind of thing we need to be thankful for; unless, of course you would like to stifle those things that others made sacrifices for?

People's views and interpretations differ, mine differs from those "accepted as being ok" e.g. Englishness and England being UK/Britian, the "you know what I mean" approach which suggests that others fall into line like good chaps.

I ain't a "good chap" and I ain't gonna run along. Although I am now buggering off to enjoy the freedom of cycling 300km this weekend.

Toodle pip.

We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall hide behind our keyboards; we shall never surrender
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
My F-in-L was a baker [reserved occupation which he had to accept despite wanting to join his cousins in the Navy out of Plymouth]. He was posted to the Slapton area and saw the outfall that resulted... they were all sworn to secrecy about it to avoid the loss of morale if it had emerged at the time.
 

marknotgeorge

Hol den Vorschlaghammer!
Location
Derby.
I do know that, and have said so. Please read my post no 35. Apart from Martha Gellhorn, some days after the main invasion women telegraphists and communications personnel followed the men to give them support.

Are you calling me Stasi? That's nice of you.
I apologise. I was trying to think of something analogous to grammar nazi, and Stasi seemed similar enough and alliterative to boot. I admit it gets my back up when someone picks a single word out and goes off on one. I'm sure you can have all the positive qualities of a stereotypical English gentleman (whatever they may be...) without being English, or indeed, a gentleman.
 

stephec

Squire
Location
Bolton
This thread was started to pay tribute to the people being honoured today, why not try and keep it at that, if you've got a comment on the wider issue of recognition of certain groups start your own thread in SC&P.

I think we all know that many different people from all over the world helped in many different ways, be it front line troops, railwaymen, landgirls, women factory workers, and many other occupations.

I'm not going to try and name them all as I'm sure to miss one out which will mean me being accused of being a mysoginistic racist.

Most of those people are probably now in their late eighties at least, and in the next fifteen or so years they'll probaly all be gone, while there here we should treasure every one of them, and not use them to try and score points off other people like a bunch of spolit little kids.
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
My Dad, still alive, aged 88 was 18 years and 6 months when he landed on Gold beach. He was part of the 7th armoured division and many of the men he was with had been up and down the desert, and then sent to Italy before coming home to prepare for D Day. He has spoken at length over the years about his wartime exploits, citing his time as, sometimes boring, sometimes exhilarating and sometimes extremely scary. He fought through France into Belgium, the Netherlands and finally crossed the Rhine into Germany. At the end of the war his regiment was one of those sent up to Belsen concentration camp, and he saw first hand the horrors that those inmates had to endure, and the tens of thousands that were already dead.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I regret that you feel the need to be so personal and insulting. It's odd that this kind of thing happens in fun and friendly Café, whereas the ongoing discussion about this subject over in SC&P is actually interesting, thought-provoking, and devoid of childish stuff like your post. Bye anyway.

Discussions devoid of childish stuff and name calling in SC&P is a rarity.

Just saying.
 

djb1971

Legendary Member
Location
Far Far Away
Did anybody catch the interviews with a few of the old guys on the BBC this evening?

One was chatting up Sian Williams ''I'm available for adoption you know'', life in the old dog yet:smooch:

Another told a tale of a shipmate that went up top feeling ill and when he returned below his teeth were missing, the fish must have been wearing them:laugh:
 

RhythMick

Über Member
Location
Barnsley
Not at all, just a point to be made and I made it - to focus only on the English (for whatever "reason") is disrespectful to every other person from every other nation.
The OP painted a picture of a person in his mind, who happened to be English. His narrative would have been ruined somewhat had he taken the time include all nations and genders who contributed to the war effort. Isn't it entirely possible that no prejudice existed... Couldn't we just enjoy the post without assuming the worst of people?
 
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