Day of the Triffids

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biggs682

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day of the triffidst

ok watched both episodes yes it was slow , never watched the film all the way thru , or read the book ( will see if local library have it ) but a lot better than normal crap
 
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Wigsie

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biggs682 said:
ok watched both episodes yes it was slow , never watched the film all the way thru , or read the book ( will see if local library have it ) but a lot better than normal crap

When people say stuff like that it makes me glad we spend the days in our house watching Peppa Pig, Sponge Bob and Scooby Doo! I think Top Gear and Match of the Day are the only shows on the BBC that I watch.

After last nights finale I remember why!
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
A film of The Chrysalids would indeed be fantastic, I'm sure modern animation techniques could cope with the huge horses and the ending. If it was done in a Brokeback Mountain / Mohicans / Mission style with lots of stunning scenery and music, it would make a great movie.
 

bonj2

Guest
wafflycat said:
Well it had naff all to do with the original book...

Arch said:
Not seen that film, but if it was, then it wasn't very true to the book either. I love the book, I like most John Wyndham. I watched last night, while I knitted, tonight I think I'll watch the June Whitfield evening instead....

Why do they have to change so much? It could very well have been brought a little up to date - the idea of triffid oil as biofuel is good (although in the book I think the oil was simply hailed as a wonderful all purpose mechanical/food product), without having to muck about with Bill's and Jo's backstories, and the plane crash and all that. And I suppose it'll all end happily and tidily, because a modern audience can't cope with a hanging ending...

I wouldn't mind if they wrote something new, with difference characters and a similar theme (after all, the triffids just fill the usual zombie/virus niche), but I'm annoyed that they hang it on a book it deviates so much from.

oh christ stop moaning about it not being faithful to the original you pair of whinging old bats! :cheers:
it wasn't even MEANT to be an exact mirror of the original book! Does it not occur to you that if it had been exactly the same as a book that was written in the early fifties it would have been *boring as sin*, as a television program?
Like I say to vegetarians, if you think it's not done exactly as you would like, go and do it better yourself, rather than moaning and whining about it like a cantankerous set of grannies...
if you don't like it go back to ....knitting chickens or whatever it is you women do.
 

montage

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bonj2 said:
oh christ stop moaning about it not being faithful to the original you pair of whinging old bats! :cheers:
it wasn't even MEANT to be an exact mirror of the original book! Does it not occur to you that if it had been exactly the same as a book that was written in the early fifties it would have been *boring as sin*, as a television program?
Like I say to vegetarians, if you think it's not done exactly as you would like, go and do it better yourself, rather than moaning and whining about it like a cantankerous set of grannies...
if you don't like it go back to ....knitting chickens or whatever it is you women do.

hahahahaaa
 

wafflycat

New Member
Bonj, why don't you try cutting out the personal insults and try a bit of reading & comprehension. There's been plenty of comments about the need for some adaptation of the story. here's one for starters http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1058850&postcount=31 and there's plenty of others. But it seems to be much easier for you just to fling out the insults based on a complete ignorance of what has actually been said in the thread.
 

goo_mason

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It would have been much better if it had stuck to the original book.

I can't see why you'd think the fifties story would have been dull, bonj. After all, when they stick to the old frock'n'bonnet books from the 1800s you don't hear many people complain that they're dull because they've not been brought up to date. They're not my cup of tea, but that's not to say they're bad!

Wyndham's books are brilliant - I read most of them in my late twenties for the first time and couldn't tear myself away from them. 'Chocky' was perhaps a personal favourite. I just wish that occasionally the TV people would have the courage to run with the original stories without tinkering with genius. We're not all so stupid that we need to have things modernised so that we might connect with them and understand them; some of us can actually use the brains we were born with! :cheers:
 
Bit of self-promotion there, eh, Waffly? I must admit, I'm a bit too modest to link back to my own posts on this thread....:cheers:

Must agree though, Bonj2's post surpasses in gratuitous insults. I feel tempted to ask him what he wants to 'say to vegetarians' but perhaps that's for a separate thread :B).

BUT.....

Those ladies on this forum who have expressed delight at Wyndham's works and a desire for faithfulness to the original - what do they make of Consider Her Ways? Try as I may to anchor tongue firmly in cheek, I cannot read that story as anything other than pure misogyny.

Wyndham did not marry until very late in life, a few years before his death. Why?
 

wafflycat

New Member
Self-promotion? No. Just linking to a short post, Pete and then referring Bonj to the fact that there's a lot more too: the bit of the quote you seem to have omitted. My criticism of Bonj - well, considering that Admin has quite recently asked that we refrain from personal insults in posting, it seems that Bonj missed that one by a long, long shot.

As for Wyndham's other works - well, they were written in another eara and so reflect him and the values/society of the time, as do many books throughout the course of history. I mean The Bible has manay a story of slavery and the stories are fabulous, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with slavery.
 
There are too many posts to look through on this for me to comment other than my own viewpoint.

I didn't want to watch it as there was something else on, so for the first 3/4 an hour kept dozing & missed a bit. Then I woke up and watched it. I watched the second part - and I did enjoy it and found it a bit scary too.

I know it was nothing like the book but I thought it was still quite good & I rarely sit down and watch anything for over an hour.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
bonj2 said:
oh christ stop moaning about it not being faithful to the original you pair of whinging old bats! :biggrin:
it wasn't even MEANT to be an exact mirror of the original book! Does it not occur to you that if it had been exactly the same as a book that was written in the early fifties it would have been *boring as sin*, as a television program?
Like I say to vegetarians, if you think it's not done exactly as you would like, go and do it better yourself, rather than moaning and whining about it like a cantankerous set of grannies...
if you don't like it go back to ....knitting chickens or whatever it is you women do.


Well, that's more or less what I did, I watched something else and knitted a glove. The fact that I didn't like the first part or think it showed much promise doesn't make me 'right' but it doesn't make me 'wrong' either, it's an opinion - something you have often had in the past I recall...

If they don't want to follow the story, why use the story at all? Why not just write it as a new film, with zombies, or mad ferrets or something. There was very little original dialogue in there, and most of the backstories were different, so why bill it as anything to do with Triffids?


BTW, Rigid, I've always read The Chysalids and thought of the 'Great Horses' as being just big Shires or Clydesdales - not really in need of special effects. It's interesting how we all read the same thing and see it differently. It's a book I see more detail in every time I read it.
 

bonj2

Guest
wafflycat said:
blah blah blah considering that Admin has quite recently asked that we refrain from personal insults in posting, it seems that Bonj missed that one by a long, long shot.

I think he meant ones that aren't accurate.
 

bonj2

Guest
wafflycat said:
Bonj, why don't you try cutting out the personal insults and try a bit of reading & comprehension. There's been plenty of comments about the need for some adaptation of the story. here's one for starters http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1058850&postcount=31 and there's plenty of others. But it seems to be much easier for you just to fling out the insults based on a complete ignorance of what has actually been said in the thread.

it seems that what you've done is write off the dramatisation simply because it isn't true to the original book without appreciating it for its own merits, and have turned your nose up and missed giving yourself the chance to enjoy it for what it is - a modern adaptation. Maybe that's an unavoidable perspective if you've read the book, which I haven't.
 

darkstar

New Member
First of all, regarding bonj's posts, they are hilarious, cut out the winging about personal insults, it's fine if it's done in such a comical way! :biggrin:

As for the program, i though it was excellent. Very enjoyable and well produced. My parents even agreed, and they are nearly 60 and have read the original. They though the update was much needed and provided an interesting twist the the story.
 
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