Deadly KOM chasing.

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To me, as a road user, the more alarming thing about the leaderboard for that segment, as well as others down the north side of the Kirkstone, is that they are mostly days in May which look very much like Fred Whitton sportive days. So plenty of people go down there at not far short of his speed, but surrounded by other people doing the same. And the road is *not* closed. Most locals wouldn't go near the Fred Whitton route in a car on the day of the event, but unwitting visitors do. As a third party, whether in a car or on a bike, I'm much more concerned by people in sportives - "not a road race; honest ..." racing down it than one person on a normal day.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Most locals wouldn't go near the Fred Whitton route in a car on the day of the event, but unwitting visitors do.
Are the roads closed for the FW? (Edit. I've googled. I think the answer is "partially")

I've heard of it, but don't know much about it. A few years ago it was near the bottom of page 2 of my to-do list. These days I'm more realistic about my capabilities and it's not on the list at all.
 
Are the roads closed for the FW? (Edit. I've googled. I think the answer is "partially")
Partially is correct. The Hardknott / Wrynose / Blea Tarn section is closed for most of the day, though possibly not all of it. EDIT: that's about 20km, about 30km from the end. Those roads are single track, very sinuous and very steep. It would be near-impossible to hold it without closing them; certainly hugely dangerous, in that plenty of people crash entirely without the assistance of cars.

I'd not wish to descend Kirkstone Pass with a multitude of other cyclists, particularly not when some subset of them see it as a race. The cars would be a minor concern in comparison.
 
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dan_bo

How much does it cost to Oldham?
I know someone who had a very bad crash on that Pass !

Oh that bloody idiot aye
 

katiewlx

Senior Member
At the time when Strava was in its infancy I always questioned why it would allow the creation of a downhill KOM segment, always seemed pointless and dangerous.

because the majority of their user base arent insane enough to care about getting some completely imaginary vapour ware achievement in cyberspace to risk their life over, you can also report segments that are hazardous, or even report the user if you feel their behaviour at riding like this is breaking Stravas guidelines, also Strava now dont provide live updates on downhill segments so that people cant chase times riding them.

fwiw I dont have a problem with downhill segments or leaderboards on them, and I kind of think people like this guy would be riding downhill like that even without strava because well he's making videos on it, so he's happy to boast about it, even though carrying the camera probably cost him some time.
 
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