Demands for Maude to quit...

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Simon1234

Über Member
Location
Somerset
Now that we know that she stored the petrol for her lawnmower, and not because of the advice of Maude, will all those politicians that attempted to gain politically out of a dreadfull accident now resign?

I suspect not.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
I have a couple of cans of petrol stored in my garage. It's for the mower and strimmer. Lots of people do it. What is not sensible about storing petrol within the legal limits in containers designed and sold for storing petrol.

It's not as if he was telling people to store petrol in a tray of jam jars as one woman apparently tried to do.

As for trying to blame him for someone decanting petrol in her kitchen to fill a car that had run out, that is pure political opportunistic exploitation of someone's misfortune.

Sometimes I despair. With all that's going on is the trivia of pasties and petrol cans the best the press and the opposition can come up with to attack the Government?

Yes, a couple of small cans is fine. But that's not the advice he gave.
Seeing as the fire service immediately told everyone to not do what Maude said, they clearly felt his advice was dangerous.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
We have had exactly that, for several years - it's called the National Lottery.

A total con. It is voluntary taxation, paid by those on and below average income, but spent by the middle classes on subsidising middle class hobbies.
"A lottery is a taxation
Upon all the fools in creation."

Henry Fielding
 
Yes, a couple of small cans is fine. But that's not the advice he gave.
Seeing as the fire service immediately told everyone to not do what Maude said, they clearly felt his advice was dangerous.

"As and when it makes sense, a bit of extra fuel in a jerry can is a sensible precaution to take." is what he said. That's one can not two. So that apart what is the difference between what he is suggested and what I and many others already do to run their mowers?

Are the fire service going to tell us to get rid of our mower fuel and if so how are we supposed to mow our lawns? Worth also pointing out it was the Fire Brigades Union not the fire service that told everyone not to do it. A small but important difference.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
Or a sensible comment misinterpreted by the stupid?

Thing is Cunobelin, if you want to be in charge you have to understand the people you want to be in charge of.

Maude either didn't or simply didn't care.

There are loads of people who don't know what gasoline can do, even people with lawnmowers. To tell all and sundry to go out and buy a very volatile substance that they have little or no experience of handling outside a petrol forecourt is at best irresponsible.

What would happen if a lesser person of authority had done so, a school teacher for example would you defend them? Or are you just another contributor to this forum mired in their own blind ideological swamp?
 
There are loads of people who don't know what gasoline can do, even people with lawnmowers. To tell all and sundry to go out and buy a very volatile substance that they have little or no experience of handling outside a petrol forecourt is at best irresponsible.

Best ban it then.
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
What a very stupid woman.

Apart from the issue of decanting petrol in a kitchen (or anywhere inside, it would stink of the fumes for ages apart from anything else), with a naked flame going, why was she pouring it into a jug to put in a car? Why not pour from the can into the car - isn't that what they are designed for?

And if the daughter didn't have the money to top up, but was so utterly reliant on her car, she maybe needs to look at her budgetting.

Darwin in action, except she's already passed on her genes.

Arch, you live in York, she and her family live in York. Is that an opinion you would give to her or their face?

She has been doubly unfortunate in not only having suffered the direct consequences of her actions but has become nationally well-known in circumstances where it suits people of certain views to label her entirely the author of her own misfortune.

I've met plenty of people who have had 'accidents' through a moment of carelessness of inattention; it's a part of being human.
 

Norm

Guest
What would happen if a lesser person of authority had done so, a school teacher for example would you defend them? Or are you just another contributor to this forum mired in their own blind ideological swamp?
Our views are parting here, I think.

Yes, if it was a "lesser person" (and I don't really like that tag), then I would still expect people to take responsibility for their own actions.

There's plenty of "dangerous" stuff for sale and I see the idea that you need to warn people that petrol is inflammable to be a couple of steps down from the idea that you need to warn people the contents of their coffee cups could be hot.
 
Our views are parting here, I think.

Yes, if it was a "lesser person" (and I don't really like that tag), then I would still expect people to take responsibility for their own actions.

There's plenty of "dangerous" stuff for sale and I see the idea that you need to warn people that petrol is inflammable to be a couple of steps down from the idea that you need to warn people the contents of their coffee cups could be hot.

Part of the problem is people are protected so much these days that they never learn to deal with stuff. Which makes them especially vulnerable to the stuff they are protected from.
 

al78

Guru
Location
Horsham
Whilst I agree the woman was foolish, I can't help wondering how many of those slating her on here for being careless and irresponsible would leap to the defense of a pedestrian who stepped into the road without looking and got hit by a car.
 
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Spinney

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
Pour petrol near naked flames
Step out into the road without looking

Seem pretty similar to me...

(In fact, if you are thinking we would all leap to the ped's defence, I think the woman burnt by petrol has slightly more excuse - as a couple of folks have said, dealing with flammable liquids anywhere other than a filling station is outside many people's experience. Roads are within almost everyone's experience)
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Talk of a school teacher surely raises the key point - school teachers deal with minors, who are assumed to need looking after. Maude was talking to adults, who aren't. Once you pass 18, it's really up to you to understand that hot things burn, heavy things drop and flammable things can catch fire. It is actually possible to have sympathy for a woman with 40% burns, while at the same time feeling that calls for resignation are politically-driven nonsense.
 
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