Detective/Forensics Question

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Speak for yourself. I like it when the sniper has to regulate his breathing, account for gravity and wind, and if it's a really long shot, the Coriolis Effect. Not like the amateurs in Andy's book by the sound of it.

In this part of the story the action is seen from the recipients, as it were. Perhaps we'll see more from the snipers point of view later in the story; it depends how annoyed I get with customers...
 

Drago

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I'm about to embark on my second book, but its all going to be hand to hand slapping.
 

classic33

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Yellow Fang

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Many thanks for the suggestions and information. Publishing isn't really on the cards; it's a method to survive the terminal boredom and excessive human interaction of working on the till for a couple of hours a day.

The story is set in December 1937, so the methods and weapons available will reflect this. There are two guns involved in the story, the Gewehr 98, with a cartridge (at least unless I find a more specialised German sniper rifle from this period) and the Japanese made Type 97 sniper rifle. The G88 used a 7.92×57mm cartridge and the Type 97 took a 6.5×50mm cartridge. Both of these are distinct from the .303/7.7mm cartridge used by the British Army at the time.

In the story the Type 97 is used to assassinate a policeman; the sniper hits on the second attempt, and the bullet that missed passes through the truck bulkhead to be found later in a damaged state when a colleague searches the truck. In a second assassination attempt on this colleague the sniper misses and hits a pile of grain sacks, allowing the shell to be retrieved in better condition. As the intended target of the assassination is a policeman he'll automatically want to identify the bullet, and those differences are fairly easy to recognise using a caliper tool.

The Gewehr 98 is fired by a German sniper, as covering fire. It is deliberately aimed at a wall next to the assassin, in order to hinder or prevent later identification of the bullet. As the sniper is firing over a distance of about 50m and the effective range of the rifle is about a kilometre, I expect the bullet will hit the wall with sufficient force to crush it. As it's a pretty mucky dockside it would be hard to find the remains in the general clutter.
Maybe you could make them use dum dumb bullets. It was schoolboy common knowledge that dum dum bullets were against the Geneva Convention. I dare say if your sniper used dum dum bullets they would be more likely to break up on impact with a wall. At least your readers would not know.
 

Drago

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Maybe you could make them use dum dumb bullets. It was schoolboy common knowledge that dum dum bullets were against the Geneva Convention. I dare say if your sniper used dum dum bullets they would be more likely to break up on impact with a wall. At least your readers would not know.

Only against the Geneva convention for military use. Bizarrely its not a breach for the police to use them, although I know of none that do.

Unjacketed lead bullets will also deform or break up most satisfactorily.

Andy, might I suggest you read Holding the Zero by Gerald Seymour. Aside from being a thumping good read it'll give you a lot of insight into the subject.
 
Only against the Geneva convention for military use. Bizarrely its not a breach for the police to use them, although I know of none that do.

Unjacketed lead bullets will also deform or break up most satisfactorily.

Andy, might I suggest you read Holding the Zero by Gerald Seymour. Aside from being a thumping good read it'll give you a lot of insight into the subject.

I guess that's because the Geneva Conventions are specifically about setting boundaries during war, whereas the police are civilians. Thanks for the book recommendation.
 

Gwylan

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Insomnia lured me into this thread.

Just feeds my paranoia and makes me wonder about the seemingly normal people walking around out there
 
Maybe you could make them use dum dumb bullets. It was schoolboy common knowledge that dum dum bullets were against the Geneva Convention. I dare say if your sniper used dum dum bullets they would be more likely to break up on impact with a wall. At least your readers would not know.

I just looked it up: the Geneva Conventions at the time dealt with treatment of wounded soldiers during war; dum dum bullets are banned under the Hague Convention of 1899, but is also specifically limited to "contracting parties" in warfare.

As the sniper using the Gewehr 98 is in the military it is unlikely they will be using a dum dum bullet.
 
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