Diesel tuning chips

[Dangermouse]

[QUOTE 2906266, member: 259"]It's not going to be mine, but I'm not prepared to reveal the model due to a fear of lynching. [/quote]

Why, either its a planet unfriendly gas guzzler or a girlie thing............in pink

 

[JoeyB]

Yeah, but seriously what's the point?

It's a diseasel. It's a car designed for efficiency, not speed. They are boring. They get you from A to B.

40bhp will do the square root of feck all, unless you're going to race it which you're clearly not.

It's a bit like putting aero bars on mountain bikes.

I disagree to a point, modern diesel lumps are pretty good fun. From what I've seen these tuning boxes actually increase the fuel efficiency further (when you aren't heavy footed) and I guess they get the additional power from winding up the boost....so it will be usable power. My A3 2.0TDCI has the standard 150bhp and that feels pretty quick. Granted, not 400bhp quick but quick enough...

 

[Pale Rider]

I had a (now sold) Ford diesel remapped.

Seamless job.

The extra 30 or so bhp and a bit more torque transformed the car, it was faster and more driveable - lots more fun.

Put another way, it was like the difference between cycling into a headwind or cycling with a tailwind.

Fuel consumption was about the same.

No problems at service time.

Only reaction I had was once when the woman who owned the Ford place dropped the car off to me.

"Goes well, that one," she said.

 

[400bhp]

I disagree to a point, modern diesel lumps are pretty good fun. From what I've seen these tuning boxes actually increase the fuel efficiency further (when you aren't heavy footed) and I guess they get the additional power from winding up the boost....so it will be usable power. My A3 2.0TDCI has the standard 150bhp and that feels pretty quick. Granted, not 400bhp quick but quick enough...

Fair point.

I guess these things are relative.

You see, in my mind, anything less than about 220bhp/tonne doesn't seem quick, but then again if that's not something you've experienced than any improvement in a mundane car is going to feel good.

That comes across as a bit arrogant I guess, but that's where I am. CBA with cars any more, no fun on the road to be had (far too stressful and all I end up doing these days is wishing I was on my bike) and had my shot at tracks/racing.

FWIW mort, having been around car forums a lot in the past, my understanding is that some diseasels are "off the boil" out of the box so to speak, as they are not designed to be anywhere near the limit. A bit like some of the lazy V8's the American car market used to produce.

 

[JoeyB]

Fair point.

I guess these things are relative.

You see, in my mind, anything less than about 220bhp/tonne doesn't seem quick, but then again if that's not something you've experienced than any improvement in a mundane car is going to feel good.

That comes across as a bit arrogant I guess, but that's where I am. CBA with cars any more, no fun on the road to be had (far too stressful and all I end up doing these days is wishing I was on my bike) and had my shot at tracks/racing.

FWIW mort, having been around car forums a lot in the past, my understanding is that some diseasels are "off the boil" out of the box so to speak, as they are not designed to be anywhere near the limit. A bit like some of the lazy V8's the American car market used to produce.

Yup definitely all relative.

Since borrowing my mates E46 M3 for a couple of weeks (and taking an E90 M3 for a quick spin) I can easily understand how nothing would feel quick if you are used to driving this type of car daily.

 

[400bhp]

E46 is a better car IMO.

Now the E30 M3

 

[Kies]

I dabbled with a tuning box on my beemer, bringing the bhp up from 218 to 241. It made it quicker (not that she is slow) but i got rid of it when i learned it puts extra pressure on the transmission & turbo.
So yes you can take them off in a few minutes, for servicing and warranty, but with a private car expect higher failure rates and increased servicing. The consumption actually went up from 38mpg to over 40mpg , which was weird as i was always accelerating a little quicker than usual.

 

[Andy_R]

Cars today are tuned to a generic point, ie, no sand storms, fuel quality across the selling area is the same, etc.etc.etc. What remapping does is give more horses per tonne based on where you live and what the fuel quality is like and other local variables. It is a serious and valid way of increasing your engine's output. It can also increase the MPG of your car/bus/van/tractor. As it increases the output, then it also decreases the input. Essentially, more bang for your bucks! I would go further into it, but I've had half a bottle of red, and can't be @rsed.

 

[Dangermouse]

Fair point.

I guess these things are relative.

You see, in my mind, anything less than about 220bhp/tonne doesn't seem quick, but then again if that's not something you've experienced than any improvement in a mundane car is going to feel good.

That comes across as a bit arrogant I guess, but that's where I am. CBA with cars any more, no fun on the road to be had (far too stressful and all I end up doing these days is wishing I was on my bike) and had my shot at tracks/racing.

FWIW mort, having been around car forums a lot in the past, my understanding is that some diseasels are "off the boil" out of the box so to speak, as they are not designed to be anywhere near the limit. A bit like some of the lazy V8's the American car market used to produce.

I had a Jag XJV8 Sport, it was one of the most beautiful cars to look at, but even though it had a V8 lump.........it just didn't have any get up n go, lovely for cruising and burning a gallon every 20mile but that was it, white leather and black wood interior..........still very nice to sit in, but it didn't have any go about it, so me and Babytiger decided to chuck it in for something other than a Jag..............came out with a 2.1 X-Type.... worst buy ever, the V6 did sound lovely but produced very little BHP for the high revs, simply supped as much petrol as the V8 for less power, I was now thinking, modern Jags are not worth the money, so went back to Saab, quick standard, remap to stg1 and you have a car that will outrun lots of the modern sports cars, mine wont as its a convertible and its horrendous on the twisty bits, but on a straight road it will get to 60 in less than 7 seconds...........90 before 10 seconds............its very quick off the mark, yes its a full pressure turbo but it is 16 years old too

 

[Smurfy]

Remapping will almost certainly impact on fuel efficiency.

 

[Dangermouse]

Remapping will almost certainly impact on fuel efficiency.

It gives better efficiency if done correctly, just don't let the bloke down the street do it, get it done at a proper garage with the correct kit to do it

 

[Globalti]

I can't believe this discussion has got this far without anybody mentioning insurance. If you had an accident and needed to claim and - unlikely, I know - your insurer discovered your car was modified for extra performance they would refuse to pay out, since insurance companies will always look for a reason not to pay. If, God forbid, you or somebody else were badly injured, you would end up footing the bill for healthcare and rather regret having wanted to boast about having taken a couple of seconds off your car's 0-60 time. Then there's the legal aspect of driving without adequate insurance cover.

Most executive cars nowadays have sufficient performance for UK road conditions; my previous Audi A4 and current Passat 2.0 tdi with around 140 bhp will get you away from the lights fast and, oh yes.... give you that extra power for emergencies that seems to worry car performance obsessives.

 

[Globalti]

Alright, without discussing insurance.

 

[biggs682]

many moons ago i worked for a company retro fitting Turbo's to Sierra's , 205gti's ,Golf gti's and Transit vans and other things if the customer was prepared to pay for it we would do it .

all the chips will do is increase the fueling and boost ( if turbo) and kid the management system in to thinking its colder than actually it is .

yes it will give you more bhp in theory , yes it could increase wear and tear on all drive line & chassis components if driven hard all the time , under normal use it should make the car easier to drive .

As for good cars a Sierra 4 x 4 2.9 with twin turbos and 300 bhp WAS FUN and looked fairly std

 

[simon the viking]

many moons ago i worked for a company retro fitting Turbo's to Sierra's , 205gti's ,Golf gti's and Transit vans and other things if the customer was prepared to pay for it we would do it .

all the chips will do is increase the fueling and boost ( if turbo) and kid the management system in to thinking its colder than actually it is .

yes it will give you more bhp in theory , yes it could increase wear and tear on all drive line & chassis components if driven hard all the time , under normal use it should make the car easier to drive .

As for good cars a Sierra 4 x 4 2.9 with twin turbos and 300 bhp WAS FUN and looked fairly std

From your location I assume that was Turbo technics then? My mate had a 205 GTI turbo technics conversions that was a crazy quick car