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doug

doug

Veteran
I'm a runner as well as a cyclist and sometimes run on the road instead of the pavement. Sometimes its because the pavement surface is uneven (often due to tree roots) or not gritted in winter, sometimes its at an odd camber. However, whenever I do run on the road, I do so on quiet roads and face oncoming traffic. The pavement in that vid looked fine and I don't think I'd want to run on the road with that traffic, especially not with the traffic approaching from behind. The cyclist is an ass though for shouting and cutting so close to the runner.
 
Ian Cooper

Ian Cooper

Expat Yorkshireman
Location
Silver Spring, MD, USA
doug said:
whenever I do run on the road, I do so on quiet roads and face oncoming traffic.
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It may seem unintuitive, but you're probably a lot safer if you run with traffic - for the same reasons cyclists are safest when they cycle with traffic. Since cars move very fast, and since moving towards them increases the speed involved, the safety aspect is not so much about you seeing a vehicular threat - it's all about how much time a driver has to see you.
 
doug

doug

Veteran
Ian Cooper said:
It may seem unintuitive, but you're probably a lot safer if you run with traffic - for the same reasons cyclists are safest when they cycle with traffic. Since cars move very fast, and since moving towards them increases the speed involved, the safety aspect is not so much about you seeing a vehicular threat - it's all about how much time a driver has to see you.
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I've done that a few times, it just feels wrong for some reason. I think running is closer to walking speed than cycling speed so following the rules for pedestrians seems to make more sense to me.
 
Mugshot

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Hawk said:
Terrible, terrible cyclist.
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No he's not a terrible, terrible cyclist, he's a terrible, terrible human being. I'll bet he's an utterly obnoxious git in every aspect of his life. It's a little sad really :sad:

BTW, does he have square wheels? What a row!!
 
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BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
That's a leap too far, I think, Mugshot. A sense of entitlement and outrage can make the nicest person intolerant and unpleasant in that sphere, but otherwise nice and fine in the rest of his or her life.
 
Ian Cooper

Ian Cooper

Expat Yorkshireman
Location
Silver Spring, MD, USA
However he acts elsewhere, he certainly becomes a nutter when he puts his bum on a saddle.
 
HovR

HovR

Über Member
Location
Plymouth
Mugshot said:
No he's not a terrible, terrible cyclist, he's a terrible, terrible human being.
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Nope, I'd say he's a pretty terrible cyclist. A large majority of the incidents in the videos I have seen are either as a result of poor positioning in his own lane, splitting lanes, or breaking the rules of the road.
 
CopperBrompton

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London


Highway Code rule 167:
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
  • approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
 
Ian Cooper

Ian Cooper

Expat Yorkshireman
Location
Silver Spring, MD, USA
BentMikey said:
...Some runners will be going in excess of 10mph, and that's faster than some cyclists.
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Google Maps' cycling directions reckon on an average speed of almost exactly 10mph. So presumably quite a lot of people go less than that. As for me, I'm a touring cyclist and I always reckon on 10mph when in fully loaded expedition touring mode. Not that I go much faster when I'm not fully loaded. Speed has never been my thing - I like to enjoy the ride and the scenery too much to be racing around like a bat out of Hell.
 
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