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Miquel In De Rain

No Longer Posting
Ahhh,I get it,like the OP's lifted video,the trick is look for a cab bonnet,speed up then fly over it,get up,shout obscenities + fisticuffs,should get me a few hits.:whistle:

actually,that sounds like a normal day at the orifice.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Taypet is a nutter who afaict hasn't posted any incendiary vids on youtube since that one caused such a fuss.

You could also mention testeranimal and the droid. Testeranimal also no longer appears to post argument vidoes, and the camera droid claims to be acting in the interests in improving safety for cyclists.

No examples of anyone who deliberately posts incendiary cycling videos because they are trolling for imaginary internet points. The only video I can think of where that was the sole aim was that 'freeman' weirdo who had the argument with the policeman. And he keeps taking the video down.

It would be very easy to do. If you were some kind of militant nutter, or just a bit of a hooligan, to go out filming yourself doing the equivalent of happy slapping on a bicycle. But it doesn't happen. Probably because I can't imagine anyone wishing to put their life in danger whilst in such a vulnerable position just to get a few internet points. And yet people keep claiming camera users are doing it on purpose. I wonder what it says about such people.
 

Peowpeowpeowlasers

Well-Known Member
The Droid is an interesting fellow and I'd probably get on very well with him, but he has an unfortunate tendency to act as though he's an authority figure on the roads. Some of his confrontational videos with drivers are cringeworthy and do him no good.

You must surely remember the bicycle racing video through London though.
 

locker

Active Member
Location
Bristol
Taypet is a nutter who afaict hasn't posted any incendiary vids on youtube since that one caused such a fuss.

You could also mention testeranimal and the droid. Testeranimal also no longer appears to post argument vidoes, and the camera droid claims to be acting in the interests in improving safety for cyclists.

No examples of anyone who deliberately posts incendiary cycling videos because they are trolling for imaginary internet points. The only video I can think of where that was the sole aim was that 'freeman' weirdo who had the argument with the policeman. And he keeps taking the video down.

It would be very easy to do. If you were some kind of militant nutter, or just a bit of a hooligan, to go out filming yourself doing the equivalent of happy slapping on a bicycle. But it doesn't happen. Probably because I can't imagine anyone wishing to put their life in danger whilst in such a vulnerable position just to get a few internet points. And yet people keep claiming camera users are doing it on purpose. I wonder what it says about such people.

Glad to know I`m still a nutter, I was getting worried :hyper:
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Most people have posted examples...and lots have come up repeatedly in threads here. If you're a frequent cam-cyclist viewer on YouTube you'll find enough!
Just go on my Youtube page and you will find plenty of them (the ones mounted on the handlebars, I havent had a worthy one for the helmet cam yet).
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Most people have posted examples...and lots have come up repeatedly in threads here. If you're a frequent cam-cyclist viewer on YouTube you'll find enough!

Of people deliberately getting themselves into scrapes to score internet points?

Haven't found one yet.
 

Ian Cooper

Expat Yorkshireman
This might not be a popular opinion, but I think most people who get into lots of scrapes and who post lots of videos of their scrapes to the Internet are cycling poorly (which is a big part of why they get into so many scrapes in the first place), but they think they're cycling well (which is why they post the videos).

In almost every video I see where the cyclist thinks a driver is 100% to blame, the cyclist is contributing in some way to the problem, whether it's just incorrect lane positioning or something else.

I once considered attaching a camera to the bike (but I didn't) and I bought an Airzound horn - all because I was going through a phase of fearing cars, but after three months of not using it I decided to dump it.

If you're relatively careful on the road, I tend to think you won't get into enough scrapes to warrant attaching a camera or using a horn.

Of course, that's just my opinion.
 
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caimg

Über Member
Of people deliberately getting themselves into scrapes to score internet points?

Haven't found one yet.

Well that's subjective isn't it? You may not feel like some of the examples that have been posted (like the OP in this very thread) are deliberate incidents to gain 'Internet points' but its fairly clear to see that's exactly what they are. YouTube has a ton of false incidents that I'm sure are stumbled upon because a camera is recording it. It's almost as if some people get enjoyment from their ride by forcing it to be action packed!
 

caimg

Über Member
The important thing to remember is that for every poor cyclist who conjures incidents to make themselves have a healthy YouTube presence there are many more good cyclists who have hundreds of hours of unpublished footage. From personal experience, I'd say there are a good couple of hour's worth of footage of mine that, if some OTT cam cyclists are anything to go by, are 'YouTube worthy' incidents. Guess for some people you gotta get your money's worth eh??
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
You may not feel like some of the examples that have been posted (like the OP in this very thread) are deliberate incidents to gain 'Internet points' but its fairly clear to see that's exactly what they are.

I see. I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.

It would be very easy to do. If you were some kind of militant nutter, or just a bit of a hooligan, to go out filming yourself doing the equivalent of happy slapping on a bicycle. But it doesn't happen. Probably because I can't imagine anyone wishing to put their life in danger whilst in such a vulnerable position just to get a few internet points. And yet people keep claiming camera users are doing it on purpose. I wonder what it says about such people.
 

caimg

Über Member
I see. I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago.

Can I ask the RH gentleman to tell me which part of screaming obscenities at a jogger is putting their own life at risk? And yes, that kind of behaviour *is* akin to being a hooligan. There is no excuse for scaring the life out of and screaming at another person just because one happens to have no patience or tolerance.

My point is the cam cyclists that look to score internet points are NOT in any real danger and manage to over exaggerate an avoidable hazard to do so.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
This might not be a popular opinion,
It is a popular opinion on this forum, and appears to be a largely popular opinion outside of it as well.

but I think most people who get into lots of scrapes and who post lots of videos of their scrapes to the Internet are cycling poorly (which is a big part of why they get into so many scrapes in the first place), but they think they're cycling well (which is why they post the videos).

In almost every video I see where the cyclist thinks a driver is 100% to blame, the cyclist is contributing in some way to the problem, whether it's just incorrect lane positioning or something else.

There does seem to be a lot of interesting opinions as to what constitutes poor cycling on this forum, and what constitutes contributing to a problem.

I think it is very useful to behave in certain ways to minimise on incidents - good positioning, looking back etc, all can contribute towards preventing a motorist performing a dangerous or illegal maneuver. But when people actually apportion blame upon the cyclist for not doing such things to potentially prevent the incident occuring - I have a real problem with that. It is still entirely the fault of the motorist who performed the dangerous/illegal maneuver - the nasty close pass, pulling out etc - because they did it.

Apportioning blame upon the cyclist when their behaviour was entirely within the rules is straight up victim blaming. Excuse the hyperbole but it smacks of telling someone off for walking down a dark alley at night and getting mugged, or a girl wearing a short skirt and getting ... well you get the idea. Just because the victim could have altered their behaviour to possibly prevent an incident, does not mean any responsibility is taken away from the perpetrator.

I once considered attaching a camera to the bike (but I didn't) and I bought an Airzound horn - all because I was going through a phase of fearing cars, but after three months of not using it I decided to dump it.

If you're relatively careful on the road, I tend to think you won't get into enough scrapes to warrant attaching a camera or using a horn..

I dropped the horn because it doesn't suit the aesthetics of my current commuter, and people don't use cameras just to capture errant road users.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
Can I ask the RH gentleman to tell me which part of screaming obscenities at a jogger is putting their own life at risk? And yes, that kind of behaviour *is* akin to being a hooligan. There is no excuse for scaring the life out of and screaming at another person just because one happens to have no patience or tolerance.

Sigh.

Taypet is a nutter who afaict hasn't posted any incendiary vids on youtube since that one caused such a fuss.

You could also mention testeranimal and the droid. Testeranimal also no longer appears to post argument vidoes, and the camera droid claims to be acting in the interests in improving safety for cyclists.

No examples of anyone who deliberately posts incendiary cycling videos because they are trolling for imaginary internet points. The only video I can think of where that was the sole aim was that 'freeman' weirdo who had the argument with the policeman. And he keeps taking the video down.

For the final time, people have various reasons for posting videos of their incidents online. I don't believe that doing it to get page views, likes, subs and other imaginary internet points to get some feeling of importance is one of them. And if there are such people, there certainly aren't 'a lot' of them as you claim. And if there are a lot of these people that I haven't found, they definitely don't constitute most camera users as some people claim.
 
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