Do Youtube'rs who film the road...
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Cameronmu917772
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- Fife
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
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- Lancaster... the little city.
i think if the dashboard camera became popular over here in Blighty... we'd be seeing plenty of 'driver on driver' incidents on youtube too.
maybe we should make it popular. Lets start putting our cams in our cars.
Keith Oates
Janner
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- Penarth, Wales
I don't follow these things on U Tube as we can't open them out here. However I don't think there is a clear yes or no answer to the question asked in the OP. It does seem to me that when one is posted (I see the written posts but not the actual clip) then there are some very forceful and heated comments given by many of the posters, as to who is to blame etc. So I suppose it must upset some people but not others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
winjim
Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
I think that posting footage where someone is identifiable, and accusing them of wrongdoing is libel. Especially if the video is posted without their knowledge or permission. If an incident is particularly dangerous it should be reported to the police, not posted publically. Also, people in glass houses and all that.
Unless you have a painful incident in your past which has prompted you to assume an alter-ego with a funny outfit and a silly name in order to fight crime and become a badass vigilante!
No wait, that's Batman...
Unless you have a painful incident in your past which has prompted you to assume an alter-ego with a funny outfit and a silly name in order to fight crime and become a badass vigilante!
No wait, that's Batman...
Shut Up Legs
Down Under Member
I've been debating the OP's question with myself all week: I still don't know whether having a cyclist's dooring video hit all our major newspapers, TV news shows, and various fora is a good thing or bad in the long run. Will just have to wait and see, I guess, and meanwhile continue doing what I always do, which is assume my fellow road users are unpredictable and dangerous, and ride accordingly.
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Dave 123
Legendary Member
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- Cambridgeshire alps
I think it all just stirs the crap. There is already too much animosity.
There needs to be a campaign run by the government making poor road use by all groups an anti social thing, in the same way that seat belts, mobile phone, drink driving has been addressed (not that any of these has ceased!)
There needs to be a campaign run by the government making poor road use by all groups an anti social thing, in the same way that seat belts, mobile phone, drink driving has been addressed (not that any of these has ceased!)
Cycleops
Legendary Member
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- Accra, Ghana
There is a thread on here sourly for uploads praising good overtakes and Curtis drivers.
I feel it's always better to have a rant and get it off your chest but where one chooses to do so requires some thought at the best of times
I've never seen anybody driving a Curtis.
Joshua Plumtree
Approaching perfection from a distance.
It was replaced about 25 years ago by the Mitsubishi Punctual.
jdtate101
Ex-Fatman
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- Boring Birmingham
The thing is people out in public have no expectation of privacy and therefore can be filmed without their consent. As such the film maker owns the copyright and can pretty do whatever they like with said footage. It's not libelous if your footage shows exactly what happened, it's only libel if you knowingly make public a FALSE statement resulting in damage to a persons reputation (that is the legal definition). Simple commentary and conjecture on what did/might have happened is open to interpretation and thus not provable beyond a doubt, it's a simple disagreement of opinion and most courts will not see this as libelous. Now if the cyclist pursued a repeated vendetta against a particular firm they could be guilty of harassment (maybe).
BTW, I'm not a lawyer so this is only my reading of the law, having been a professional photographer for a few years, and used to dealing with the issues of photography in public.
BTW, I'm not a lawyer so this is only my reading of the law, having been a professional photographer for a few years, and used to dealing with the issues of photography in public.
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mr_cellophane
Legendary Member
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- Essex
No thats Traffic Driod.
winjim
Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
He even has some sort of utility belt.
@jdtate101 I think you are correct in a strictly legal sense, but replace the word "libel" in my post with the phrase "being a dick" and you get my gist.
Regarding the OP, I honestly doubt whether many people outside the cycling community are even aware of the existence of these videos...
Melonfish
Evil Genius in training.
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- Warrington, UK
i'd say there's a fair mix of dashcams, cyclists, and motorcyclists on the old tube of U's
i think it works both ways. Some cycle cams have a wide angle so although we know its bad, it doesn't always come out that way. However they can be put to good use... The door thing got the required result off social media and that caravan firm driver got the sack, and rightly so. And I've done lots of hazard perception training thanks to youtube. Any person who replies negatively to the release of this footage is obviously a bad driver anyway, those types of videos tend to attract trolls or cyclists, never the average driver. So we end up with a perception its doing more harm than good when, in fact, we're just getting wound up by trolls.
