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Over The Hill

Over The Hill

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Dave 123 said:
It's really easy to slide down hill, takes effort to claw your way back.
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I do agree it does seem easy to drop into that way of living, it must be as so many people are like it. I guess the families were chosen as good examples but I think they are far from unusual and there are people out there like that.

It is easy to get swept into bad habits. About 15 years ago at the age of 40 I put a couple of stone on and did start getting problems with my knees. I am very careful with what I eat and do have various pushes to do more exercise. It is very easy to just put weight gain down to getting a bit older and accepting it.

But in all my worst excess I was never anywhere near as bad as what was on the program. The kid with eczema looked like a waif from a Victorian workhouse. He had never been given any fruit or veg in his life and the woman this week had never set foot in the local park.

But we get bombarded with ads for fast food and processed junk all the time but I cannot remember an ad for fruit or veg. Not do they have fruit snacks lined up by the till in almost every shop as they do with sweets.

It seemed to really uncover the huge problem that we know is there but show it in a very human and personal way which is not conveyed by obesity statistics. But I am rather at a loss as to what can be done.
 
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TVC

Guest
I can't quite understand why people agree to go on these programmes to have themselves put up to public ridicule.

I remember surfing into one episode of Embarrasing Bodies where the voiceover said, to paraphrase "Mary is a mother of two teenage boys and she has a nasty swelling on her lady parts" Cut to Mary on an examination table, legs akimbo with the camera set up due south, followed by a close up of her sad looking undercarriage whilst a doctor pulled and prodded at it.
Now this was something I didn't want to see whilst eating my chips, but the most disturbing bit was the line "mother of two teenage boys". These boys had to go to school the morning after their mother's exhaust pipe had been on view on national tv, not awkward at all.
 
summerdays

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I have enjoyed watching them and the doctors approach and watching how he has had to adapt to his patients. Yes a lot is predictable but sometimes you need someone else to give you that kick up the backside. It's had me thinking "ok I'm not as bad but I do have a snacking habit that it would be good to get on top of".
 
sidevalve

sidevalve

Über Member
Over The Hill said:
But we get bombarded with ads for fast food and processed junk all the time but I cannot remember an ad for fruit or veg. Not do they have fruit snacks lined up by the till in almost every shop as they do with sweets.
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Sorry but no it is not somebody else's fault and I for one am sick and tired of being forced to look after every failed idiot out there.
OH it's the supermarkets fault the kids are fat - no it's the stupid parents. Oh it's the adverts for fatty food - no it's the idiots that buy them to excess. Oh it's Mac Donalds fault I eat too many burgers - no it's yours grow up. Now if I decide I want a mars bar when on the way out of the supermarket I have to go all the way back down the isles to get one because Mr and Mrs Dumbo can't look after their fat spoiled little brat. Now we are told of the latest idea to tax fizzy drinks - why ? Why do I have to pay more because of the stupid people. As a matter of interest does ANYONE believe that such a tax would actually be used on the NHS to combat obesity anyway - like the road tax was EVER used on the roads ? Living on takeaway is not a cheap option so that is a non starter for an excuse. A bit less whining and a bit more responsibility might just do more good
 
Lullabelle

Lullabelle

Banana
Location
Midlands UK
sidevalve said:
Sorry but no it is not somebody else's fault and I for one am sick and tired of being forced to look after every failed idiot out there.
OH it's the supermarkets fault the kids are fat - no it's the stupid parents. Oh it's the adverts for fatty food - no it's the idiots that buy them to excess. Oh it's Mac Donalds fault I eat too many burgers - no it's yours grow up. Now if I decide I want a mars bar when on the way out of the supermarket I have to go all the way back down the isles to get one because Mr and Mrs Dumbo can't look after their fat spoiled little brat. Now we are told of the latest idea to tax fizzy drinks - why ? Why do I have to pay more because of the stupid people. As a matter of interest does ANYONE believe that such a tax would actually be used on the NHS to combat obesity anyway - like the road tax was EVER used on the roads ? Living on takeaway is not a cheap option so that is a non starter for an excuse. A bit less whining and a bit more responsibility might just do more good
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Amen
 
Lullabelle

Lullabelle

Banana
Location
Midlands UK
Over The Hill said:
I do agree it does seem easy to drop into that way of living, it must be as so many people are like it. I guess the families were chosen as good examples but I think they are far from unusual and there are people out there like that.

It is easy to get swept into bad habits. About 15 years ago at the age of 40 I put a couple of stone on and did start getting problems with my knees. I am very careful with what I eat and do have various pushes to do more exercise. It is very easy to just put weight gain down to getting a bit older and accepting it.

But in all my worst excess I was never anywhere near as bad as what was on the program. The kid with eczema looked like a waif from a Victorian workhouse. He had never been given any fruit or veg in his life and the woman this week had never set foot in the local park.

But we get bombarded with ads for fast food and processed junk all the time but I cannot remember an ad for fruit or veg. Not do they have fruit snacks lined up by the till in almost every shop as they do with sweets.

It seemed to really uncover the huge problem that we know is there but show it in a very human and personal way which is not conveyed by obesity statistics. But I am rather at a loss as to what can be done.
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The thing about the kid with eczema is that he was a big fan of those gorgeous yellow minions, they love bananas, he was young enough for them to get inside his head so why didn't they:scratch:
 
summerdays

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I worry about one of my siblings and their family. Both parents are in the obese to very very obese category and they have one child who seems to have no off switch for her appetite. At the moment they seem to be using exercise to control it, and that is working (at one point they were worried about early puberty). But she will be moving to secondary school and teenage girls usually don't keep up taking part in exercise.
 
OP
OP
Over The Hill

Over The Hill

Guru
Location
Ridden off into the sunset
sidevalve said:
Sorry but no it is not somebody else's fault and I for one am sick and tired of being forced to look after every failed idiot out there.
OH it's the supermarkets fault the kids are fat - no it's the stupid parents. Oh it's the adverts for fatty food - no it's the idiots that buy them to excess. Oh it's Mac Donalds fault I eat too many burgers - no it's yours grow up. Now if I decide I want a mars bar when on the way out of the supermarket I have to go all the way back down the isles to get one because Mr and Mrs Dumbo can't look after their fat spoiled little brat. Now we are told of the latest idea to tax fizzy drinks - why ? Why do I have to pay more because of the stupid people. As a matter of interest does ANYONE believe that such a tax would actually be used on the NHS to combat obesity anyway - like the road tax was EVER used on the roads ? Living on takeaway is not a cheap option so that is a non starter for an excuse. A bit less whining and a bit more responsibility might just do more good
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I do agree with you, yes people should take responsibility.
BUT two things (at least) are going on.
We are bombarded with endless advertising for stuff. It is clever and effective and hooks people in. Everywhere we buy things is flooded by junk food. I go in Wickes for some timber and the checkout is full of sweets. I buy petrol and am made to walk in past heaps of stuff, I do quite accept that I have a choice in buying it or not but people do seem to not be able to resist. If heroin was available in every shop for next to nothing we would all be hooked!
The advertising and shops cleverly move the goalposts. It becomes the usual to eat sweets every day, drink fizzy drinks, eat takeaways and buy lots of ready made food and junk. They are clever. Say to someone eat a couple of digestive biscuits for breakfast and they will not do it, but call it a "breakfast biscuit" and they see it as fine.
Advertisers are winning.
We do need to accept we are heading for disaster. Yes all self inflicted as with smoking. But the reality is to help out the overweight person with their diet who is marginally type two diabetic or leave them ten years until they are having their legs amputated, go blind or are on dialysis. It must make sense to throw all the resources at prevention that we can.
 
theclaud

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
sidevalve said:
Sorry but no it is not somebody else's fault and I for one am sick and tired of being forced to look after every failed idiot out there.
OH it's the supermarkets fault the kids are fat - no it's the stupid parents. Oh it's the adverts for fatty food - no it's the idiots that buy them to excess. Oh it's Mac Donalds fault I eat too many burgers - no it's yours grow up. Now if I decide I want a mars bar when on the way out of the supermarket I have to go all the way back down the isles to get one because Mr and Mrs Dumbo can't look after their fat spoiled little brat. Now we are told of the latest idea to tax fizzy drinks - why ? Why do I have to pay more because of the stupid people. As a matter of interest does ANYONE believe that such a tax would actually be used on the NHS to combat obesity anyway - like the road tax was EVER used on the roads ? Living on takeaway is not a cheap option so that is a non starter for an excuse. A bit less whining and a bit more responsibility might just do more good
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Thanks for your opinion. Let's have the next caller, please.
 
Dave 123

Dave 123

Legendary Member
Location
Cambridgeshire alps
The Velvet Curtain said:
I can't quite understand why people agree to go on these programmes to have themselves put up to public ridicule.

I remember surfing into one episode of Embarrasing Bodies where the voiceover said, to paraphrase "Mary is a mother of two teenage boys and she has a nasty swelling on her lady parts" Cut to Mary on an examination table, legs akimbo with the camera set up due south, followed by a close up of her sad looking undercarriage whilst a doctor pulled and prodded at it.
Now this was something I didn't want to see whilst eating my chips, but the most disturbing bit was the line "mother of two teenage boys". These boys had to go to school the morning after their mother's exhaust pipe had been on view on national tv, not awkward at all.
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I thought I dealt with the jibes quite well. My brother on the other hand got into a bit of a flap.
 
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