Does anyone know if or how this idea could be progressed?

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Oldhippy

Cynical idealist
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A long read, but an idea that's been rattling around in my head for a long time. Idealistic certainly but wondered if any CCer's had thoughts on if or how all, or bits of it could be an idea for a council or investment person would consider?
An environment that encompasses a cafe, workshop, cycle hire, local delivery service, training and storage. Designed to promote cycling as a whole, and as a form of transport generally. Promoting the fact that the use of cycles is not limited to leisure pursuits only. It would hopefully cause a gradual sea change in the local and wider population that see cycles and cycling as a perfectly acceptable way of getting around the local area, shopping, commuting to work and leisure pursuits.
This would in the long term, make the (insert town) and the surrounding area less polluted with motor traffic and provide a sizable traffic free zone in the town with the added bonus of improving the health and well being of the population. It would also provide employment opportunities, both full time and part time, for the local population. The following possibilities could be started all at once which is on the grand scale, but also introduced over a period of time.
It is envisaged that funding would come from a number of sources. The local Authority could potentially free up the space required and initially charge a peppercorn rent until the business was established. The other activities could possibly be either a number of separate entities in their own right or formed as a co-operative of like minded individuals working together. Cycling organisations like Cycling UK, Sustrans and British Cycling could lend support to make fundraising an easier prospect. Local businesses would be approached that would benefit from the idea. Wealthy individuals who have an interest in new and exciting ideas may be a good source of funding as well.
The potential is far and wide ranging for making a more sustainable community generally, firmly putting Banbury and its environs firmly on the map as a cycle friendly place to live and work alongside Cambridge, York and Oxford in terms of cycle use versus polluting means. Employment opportunities are wide and varied. The long term effect on health and wellbeing are enormous on its own and far outweigh any initial cost. The whole enterprise would still have expansion opportunities with branded products as the company/charity/co-operative became more established. These would be sourced from an environmental source and use local crafts people and companies where ever possible.
Cafe:
Providing hot and cold drinks, breakfast, lunches and early evening meals both in house and take away. Seating area inside and out. Accessible for all and using as much local produce for the cafe as possible.
Cycle workshop:
Providing repairs large and small, advice and running accredited repair courses to those interested in learning the mechanics of cycle repair. Sales of spares and recycled cycles for those on a low income or disadvantaged in other ways.
Delivery Service:
With a small fleet of different cargo cycles and a relationship with local businesses it would be possible to deliver anything from small packages and letters to van loads of items, food, electrical items including things like washing machines and fridges and furniture in and around the local area. This would be achieved with specialised electrically assisted cargo cycles that are able carry small and surprisingly large loads.
Wheels for All:
Providing storage and space to have regular Wheels for All sessions catering to those with disabilities.
Camping Area:
Open area with around space for twenty tents, amenities for cycling and walking tourists.
Cycle Training and bike hire:
Training in-house and in local schools for children and adults alike. A wide range of cycles to hire by the day or longer for families and individuals alike.
Shop:
Small shop area selling Sustrans/Cycling UK products, cycle friendly maps of the area and tourist information and local sites.
Local Tours:
Guided local tours of the area.
Environmental Taxi Service.

 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Some thoughts offhand.

It would need premises and capital, and to get that it would need a business plan, and to get that it would need research. Lots of research. Research on the market who wants stuff delivered, how much will they pay, What's the market for the cafe, What's the competition like. Sources of funding, are there any grants. What's the demand for tours/products. What are the likely regulatory barriers (food regs, H&S, insurance ...) Premises - What's the state of the commercial property market in the area - stuff going cheap? Other people doing this kind of thing around the country, their experience. For profit? Charity? (and charity regulations)

You can't do all this at once so you'd need a phased plan. Where would you start - What's the most viable bit.

Also Promoting the fact that the use of cycles is not limited to leisure pursuits only. Don't exclude leisure/sports pursuits. That would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Tie up with local cycling clubs/events.
 

SteveH80

Well-Known Member
You would need to do a fairly detail business plan to tie all that together. I don't think the capital cost would be an issue but like all these things the devil is in the revenue costs.
 

annedonnelly

Girl from the North Country
Location
Canonbie
Have a look at what other areas are doing. There's a Cycle Hub in Newcastle. It has cafe & workshop and is right on a Sustrans cycle route. I'm pretty sure that they used to hire bikes & there's a cycling holiday business next door. I think the location is used as meeting point for things like Breeze (ladies) rides and perhaps for cycle training also. I've also seen the cafe used after hours for meetings of things like the Newcastle Cycling Campaign. I'm sure there are other similar venues throughout the country.

It's worth finding out why they're not doing the other things you mention. Did they try and it didn't work? Learn from their mistakes. Actually I think they tried something in Hexham but the cafe/workshop part of it soon closed. They still do led rides I think.

There used to be a cycle delivery business in Newcastle - not based at the hub - and they seemed to be doing well, including getting NHS work, but then they went out of business. Maybe it's just not viable.
 

nogoodnamesleft

Well-Known Member
Local town to me was a Cafe, Cake Shop, cycle Workshop. Closed down now.
I should add I have no idea why it closed down. I purchased some cakes there on a few occasions and they were good. Only a small town but it was on the A140 so a lot of passing traffic (incl. London to Norfolk beaches & Norfolk Broads) and a free car park very nearby.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
It would need premises and capital, and to get that it would need a business plan, and to get that it would need research. Lots of research. Research on the market who wants stuff delivered, how much will they pay, What's the market for the cafe, What's the competition like. Sources of funding, are there any grants.
Oh that's far too much like hard work! If you can get some council and Business Improvement District bigwigs to support it, you don't have to bother with much research!

In fact, as long as you misinterpret one survey where 86 of respondents want more cycle parking put back into town (reversing the past decade of removals) as a call for a posh subscription bike shed, you can have had three or four pilots that all died on their bottoms, then fail to issue any keys for a bike hanger, and yet still get enough funding to build two "active travel hubs" with one in the middle of a town centre car park that's not on any cycle route, and over half a mile from any cycle route that's actually opened, requiring a long detour jousting with drivers on a narrow one-way street going to and from the car park.

Then you can try to get a first design approved that's slightly too small so it avoids taking away too many car parking spaces, even though it means anyone getting their bike out of the top level of a double-deck cycle rack risks being trapped between their bike leaving the rack and various metal objects on the other side of the aisle, including a nicely pointy metal cycle repair station.

Then your agent can get grumpy when the local cycling campaign objects, give a load of variously misleading and bull shoot rebuttals to their objections, and be surprised when the council's planning hearing refuses permission. https://road.cc/news/council-backs-...ears-of-conflict-between-drivers-and-cyclists (update: we're talking to the council about opening the planned cycle route near the site, changing the internal layout to remove the crush hazards and rearranging the car park to provide safe access. I don't think we'll stop the town centre one so we may as well make it not injure cyclists who use it.)

Sorry, the above experience has made me rather cynical about these initiatives - and that one didn't even involve anything with as many staff as a cafe-with-repairs. If such a thing is going to work, they probably should be done initially as Community Interest Companies like Bicycle Links https://bicyclelinks.org.uk/ with maybe some in the most cycle-friendly places being able to be fully commercial, although Look Mum No Hands suggests it can be tough to stay open even in the biggest city.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
The potential is far and wide ranging for making a more sustainable community generally, firmly putting Banbury and its environs firmly on the map as a cycle friendly place to live and work alongside Cambridge, York and Oxford in terms of cycle use versus polluting means.
I looked at moving to Banbury once. I have fond memories of the town and its market, but the town's got very few cycleways except for the new bit on the northern edge and even there, they're mostly around the edges of areas and seem like leisure meanders, not routes to work or shops. There's only one cycle route on the map: NCN 5. There's very few 20mph roads and only two small 20mph zones. It has some Cycleways Resembling A Pavement to the south of the town centre that need fixing.

In short, Banbury has bigger needs than just a cycling centre building to put it on the map as cycle-friendly. It needs substantial Local Cycling and Walking Implementation Plan work. Never mind trying to be alongside Cambridge, York and Oxford. First, it needs to catch up with Bicester, Didcot and Aylesbury. Then you might be able to get support for such a centre into a LCWIP v2 and start looking for council or charity grants.

So the first move probably needs to be with the highway authority (probably Oxfordshire County Council for now, maybe another council or mayor later) to get the LCWIP v1 (that they should have by now) implemented and work started on LCWIP v2.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Sorry, but how do you make money from cycling related stuff/activities if the area is not already busy with cyclists?
It takes years to transform an area from car centric to bike friendly, meantime people need paid.
Business or charity, money needs to be made.
You mention camping: that implies the cycling hub is in a green space. What happens during the winter, will customers still travel to the remote bike mechanic?
A few have tried similar (bar the camping) here in Glasgow.
Bike for Good are the only ones left that still offer repairs, sales, training.
They have 2 premises, one is operating only 3 days a week.
 
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