Dog attack on girl cycling

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aoj

Well-Known Member
This happened near one of the routes I use.

http://www.thecourie...ottweilers.html

The problem is of course the irresponsible owners and the type of dogs they own. This owner in particular tops the low life charts.

QUOTE "It is understood the owner of the animals was seen leaving the area with them in a taxi".

Now I know that very stupid woman became the most hated person in the world for putting a cat in a bin.

Surely this dog owner should now be given that award ?
 

al78

Guru
Location
Horsham
This happened near one of the routes I use.

http://www.thecourie...ottweilers.html

The problem is of course the irresponsible owners and the type of dogs they own. This owner in particular tops the low life charts.

QUOTE "It is understood the owner of the animals was seen leaving the area with them in a taxi".

Now I know that very stupid woman became the most hated person in the world for putting a cat in a bin.

Surely this dog owner should now be given that award ?

It doesn't say in the article whether the attack was accidental or malicious. If it was malicious then yes.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
This happened near one of the routes I use.

http://www.thecourie...ottweilers.html

The problem is of course the irresponsible owners and the type of dogs they own. This owner in particular tops the low life charts.

QUOTE "It is understood the owner of the animals was seen leaving the area with them in a taxi".

Now I know that very stupid woman became the most hated person in the world for putting a cat in a bin.

Surely this dog owner should now be given that award ?

Retribution is about to be meted out:

The dogs have been seized and are going to be put down
The owner(s) will no doubt be interviewed and dealt with within the constraints of current legislation.

In addition isn't the Scottish Parliament looking at the issue of dangerous dogs with a view to changing the law making it necessary for dog owners to demonstrate that they have trained their dogs and understand their obligations to keeping them under control.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
It doesn't say in the article whether the attack was accidental or malicious. If it was malicious then yes.

What's the difference between an accidental or a malicious attack?

I'm sure that there isn't a pain, anxiety or injury difference for the victim.
 
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aoj

Well-Known Member
It doesn't say in the article whether the attack was accidental or malicious. If it was malicious then yes.

I don't think it was intended to be malicious and at no point am I saying the dogs are responsible.

it was his act of departing the scene that was clearly intentional and unforgivable in my humble opinion
 
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aoj

Well-Known Member
Retribution is about to be meted out:

The dogs have been seized and are going to be put down
The owner(s) will no doubt be interviewed and dealt with within the constraints of current legislation.

In addition isn't the Scottish Parliament looking at the issue of dangerous dogs with a view to changing the law making it necessary for dog owners to demonstrate that they have trained their dogs and understand their obligations to keeping them under control.

I'm not a dog owner and find them like people, some ok and some no so. Unfortunatley the dogs have lost out here due to the owner.

The law is changing next year but how can the authorities check every owner before the event. I think the owner for this type of event would just be in more trouble after the event, but better than nothing and it will maybe make some owners think about it beforehand.
 

bauldbairn

New Member
Location
Falkirk
I'm not a dog owner and find them like people, some ok and some no so. Unfortunatley the dogs have lost out here due to the owner.

The law is changing next year but how can the authorities check every owner before the event. I think the owner for this type of event would just be in more trouble after the event, but better than nothing and it will maybe make some owners think about it beforehand.

+1, :angry:

I'm seriously concerned that the Neds/Numpties/Chavs in my town now seem to be going around with packs of these "Devil Dogs(copyright N.O.W./Gordon Strachan)" with no knowledge whatsoever on how to control/handle them.

I'm not a dog owner because I don't have the time to dedicate to them due to "work" but I do love animals and again it's the poor dogs that'll suffer. Owners of such animals should have to sit "extensive/expensive licence tests" before ever being allowed to own them!
 

Eddie

Well-Known Member
I keep having my runs ruined by morons with their horrible dogs. I'm no expert but i can spot when a dog is taking a dominant agressive stance and if you own a dog and it is doing that you should take immediate action. What do these morons do? Nothing.
 
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aoj

Well-Known Member
I keep having my runs ruined by morons with their horrible dogs. I'm no expert but i can spot when a dog is taking a dominant agressive stance and if you own a dog and it is doing that you should take immediate action. What do these morons do? Nothing.

I have a friend who has had to give up running due to having to fend off dogs attacks too often and they are with their owners.
 

al78

Guru
Location
Horsham
What's the difference between an accidental or a malicious attack?

I'm sure that there isn't a pain, anxiety or injury difference for the victim.

Accidental incident: Person responsible is likely to be horrified and will do their utmost to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Malicious incident: Person responsible gets some kind of perverse pleasure on causing grief to others so is likely to go on and harm someone else.

Who do you think represents the most danger to society?
 

gary r

Legendary Member
Location
Camberley
as someone who was attacked by an alsatian and hospitalised when i was a teenager,i can imagine what this poor girl went through,i was terrified of dogs for years.I had nightmares for ages afterwards.people asked me "why didnt you kick it"but the dog was so quick,I had bites on my stomach & all up my arm,when the dog got hold of my wrist it just shook & shook but wouldnt let go,My arm was probably twice the size with the swelling and it took a couple of years to get the strength back in my wrist.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Accidental incident: Person responsible is likely to be horrified and will do their utmost to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Malicious incident: Person responsible gets some kind of perverse pleasure on causing grief to others so is likely to go on and harm someone else.

Who do you think represents the most danger to society?

Both persons represent an equal amount of danger to society because neither incident should have happened in the first place.
 
Accidental incident: Person responsible is likely to be horrified and will do their utmost to ensure it doesn't happen again.

Malicious incident: Person responsible gets some kind of perverse pleasure on causing grief to others so is likely to go on and harm someone else.

Who do you think represents the most danger to society?


To me accidental would be a a failure to control the dogs, malicious would be deliberately setting or encouraging the dogs

To me this is not a moot point.

A dog (or dogs) attacking a child will be equally traumatic whether the attack is accidental or malicious. He point here is that the dogs were not under control and there was a deliberate attempt to remove them.

There is no proof or mention of the time scale here.

I only hope that this was "later" - if this was at the time of the attack, and the owner did not assist the victim then I am speechless!
 
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