Dog attack on girl cycling

[aoj]

To me accidental would be a a failure to control the dogs, malicious would be deliberately setting or encouraging the dogs

To me this is not a moot point.

A dog (or dogs) attacking a child will be equally traumatic whether the attack is accidental or malicious. He point here is that the dogs were not under control and there was a deliberate attempt to remove them.

There is no proof or mention of the time scale here.

I only hope that this was "later" - if this was at the time of the attack, and the owner did not assist the victim then I am speechless!

The owner was a woman and has indeed now been charged

A recent report on google news states "The owner of the animals was seen leaving the area with them in a taxi, but was later traced by police"
Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz0y96VDM8R

No timing of how long after the event but it would suggest that they did so without contacting the police otherwise they would not have had to be traced. They may have been try to remove the dog to a safer place for the public safety, but it still is a suspect act given the circumstances.

At least now it will go to court when all will be revealed.

In the mean time we can only hope the girl makes a quick and full recovery.

 

[Crankarm]

I have a friend who has had to give up running due to having to fend off dogs attacks too often and they are with their owners.

It is a recurring problem where I run. A small minority of dog owners are responsible pleasant people, unfortunately the remaining majority are not. I had resorted to carrying a camera, but this has only made some owners extremely aggressive and pysically confrontational as well as their dogs being used to imtimdate, chase and bite. The plods have done absolutely bugger all when I have reported these dog owners and their dogs. In a recent incident which became very ugly, I was accosted by a foul mouthed woman walking her dog on a playing field where signs are clearly displayed prohibiting dogs. Unfortunately this matter has since become a very serious matter.

So I too give up running in that area. I didn't run for 6 weeks as I was so scared of dogs and their vicious owners. I now run in a different area. Have only since encountered a couple of dogs, one of which unfortunately is the same dog which bit me on my Achilles about 18 months ago and the police did bugger all about it. The owner is a nasty piece of work as well.

A few days ago running in my 'new' area this chap called his dog to him as I approached and as I got near he shouted at it and it came steaming over barking and snapping around my legs. I then recognised who the chap was. I straightaway got my camera out which I still carry. He then launched into a series of threats against me. Nasty.

The owner of these Rottweiler dogs in this instant case should either be put down herself which obviously won't happen or spend minimum 8 years in jail. The dog license should be brought back with immediate effect. Every dog should be insured for 3rd party liability. Dogs should be controlled as strictly as guns are.

This poor poor kid was apparrently just riding her bike when she was attacked by these beasts being thrown about like a rag doll. She is extremely lucky to be alive. The law is failing in EVERY respect to protect people.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Both persons represent an equal amount of danger to society because neither incident should have happened in the first place.

A dog is a dog, you can NEVER be entirely sure what a dog is going to do in a certain set of circumstances. A bit like people really - you can never FULLY control them, you can only do your very best.

To make sure it 'never happens again', you'd need to get rid of dogs altogether, and I can't see that happening, can you?

 

[Globalti]

A pal of mine was out running when a large dog ran up to him, he hates dogs anyway so this one got a swift right hook to the chops, which sent it sprawling and yelping to the side of the trail. The owner shouted at him but had absolutely no chance of catching my pal. I expect it taught the dog a lesson it won't forget.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

A small minority of dog owners are responsible pleasant people, unfortunately the remaining majority are not.

Oh aye?? a small minority??

Of course I don't live where you live, but on the whole it's the other way round, there are a small minority of idiots with dogs giving us a bad name.

The owner of these Rottweiler dogs in this instant case should either be put down herself which obviously won't happen or spend minimum 8 years in jail.

The problem is that the punnishment for these crimes is never enough. She might get a fine or be banned from owning dogs for a year, but that will be it, and she'll then be able to get back to what she was doing beforehand.

The dog license should be brought back with immediate effect.

It didn't work before so why should it work now?

Every dog should be insured for 3rd party liability. Dogs should be controlled as strictly as guns are.

Nope, it wouldn't work. They tried to introduce something like that earlier in the year, but was then dropped after it was pointed out that all the law abiding owners would comply (and be treated like some sort of criminal), and all of the people for whom the laws are REALLY intended for would simply ignore it and carry on as before, thereby defeating the whole purpose of it.

As for guns, it is the same - exactly how many 'ilegal' guns are out there, compared to the amount which ARE legal??

See these high profile weapons drives the Police have done in the past? Who hands in the weapons?? yes, that's right, the ordinary people.

Who DOESN'T hand theirs in?? yes, that's right, the criminals.

The law is failing in EVERY respect to protect people.

I agree! worse punnishment must be needed, but, and here's the rub, would it actually deter these people??

Find something that has that effect and bingo!

 

[ufkacbln]

A dog is a dog, you can NEVER be entirely sure what a dog is going to do in a certain set of circumstances. A bit like people really - you can never FULLY control them, you can only do your very best.

To make sure it 'never happens again', you'd need to get rid of dogs altogether, and I can't see that happening, can you?

Most mornings I pass a lady who has three large labradors which run riot all over the cycle track and adjacent verges.

As soon as she sees a cyclist there is a firm "sit" and they all do!

In some five years of sharing this route we have never had a conflict.

Dogs can be trained and well trained!

 

[Crankarm]

Here's yet another dog attack on a kid ........... the so called docile family pet as well.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100910/tuk-toddler-needs-200-stitches-after-dog-45dbed5.html

No mention of the dog being destroyed ............